Le Pen père lost by 18 percent to 82 in the second round, though - his daughter will lose and almost certainly by double digits, but nothing like that. And then there's the fact of neither major party being represented, instead of just one of them.

I know what you mean, and in fact Trump's lack of fixed positions on just about anything was one of the points I referred to in Le Pen's favour. But then, his lack of positions so far has also meant that he just lets Congress and his Cabinet do what they want, meaning he has a fairly conventional Republican economic policy in practice, whether he personally supports it or not. Le Pen's economic policies are not only terrible on trade, but also delusional with regards to government spending and entitlements, in an even worse way than what you'd see in the US. Her actually gaining power could seriously hurt the French economy - you can't say that about Trump. That was basically what I was trying to say, a bit similar to the point about the racism where yes, you could point at various things Trump has said and done, but in the end legally speaking not much has changed for any actual American citizens - that would be different with Le Pen.