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Re: So two conversations now..... nossy Send a noteboard - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM

View original postSo then if/when you have a friend who is anorexic, and they finally give in and reach for something to eat, do you slap it out of their hand? Do you tell them to not give in, but to pursue their actions so that their body can match their mind?


View original postNo. You'd never do that. You'd help your friend get to a healthy place.

If my friend were physically starving him/herself, I would try to get him to understand that eating is what keeps him alive, yes. I'm sorry, but I don't understand why you think that's a relevant comparison. Not conforming to society's idea of gender doesn't mean someone is ill, and it doesn't starve him to death. If that person came to me and said that he felt he WAS sick and he felt fitting into proper gender roles was the solution, then yes, I'd help him figure out how to make that work.
View original postThis whole conversation pertains to why is this specific topic different. No one has been able articulate why besides the individual wants it real bad, and the effort to help their mind align with reality is less then just giving them what they want.

We've all told you repeatedly that it's because, in and of itself, self-identification is not dangerous to the person or others. Why shouldn't someone have something they "want real bad"*, as long as it does nothing to anyone else?

*I don't think they just want it; I think it is how things are for them, but we are unlikely to agree and I don't feel like arguing any more.

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 844 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 576 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 591 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 583 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 268 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 557 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 633 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 540 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 565 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 478 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 534 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 587 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 530 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 527 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 537 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 583 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 567 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 524 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 549 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 589 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 565 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 649 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 542 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 532 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 567 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 537 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 522 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 559 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 528 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 542 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 479 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 579 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 500 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 542 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 546 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 542 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 553 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 539 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 554 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 321 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 257 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 583 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 667 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 574 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 499 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 488 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 694 Views
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