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Re: So two conversations now..... nossy Send a noteboard - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM

View original postSo then if/when you have a friend who is anorexic, and they finally give in and reach for something to eat, do you slap it out of their hand? Do you tell them to not give in, but to pursue their actions so that their body can match their mind?


View original postNo. You'd never do that. You'd help your friend get to a healthy place.

If my friend were physically starving him/herself, I would try to get him to understand that eating is what keeps him alive, yes. I'm sorry, but I don't understand why you think that's a relevant comparison. Not conforming to society's idea of gender doesn't mean someone is ill, and it doesn't starve him to death. If that person came to me and said that he felt he WAS sick and he felt fitting into proper gender roles was the solution, then yes, I'd help him figure out how to make that work.
View original postThis whole conversation pertains to why is this specific topic different. No one has been able articulate why besides the individual wants it real bad, and the effort to help their mind align with reality is less then just giving them what they want.

We've all told you repeatedly that it's because, in and of itself, self-identification is not dangerous to the person or others. Why shouldn't someone have something they "want real bad"*, as long as it does nothing to anyone else?

*I don't think they just want it; I think it is how things are for them, but we are unlikely to agree and I don't feel like arguing any more.

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 856 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 587 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 605 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 600 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 273 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 567 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 650 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 550 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 576 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 494 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 547 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 600 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 542 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 542 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 548 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 597 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 581 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 534 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 561 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 602 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 578 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 662 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 554 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 545 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 578 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 547 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 536 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 571 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 539 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 553 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 490 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 591 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 511 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 554 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 556 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 553 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 564 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 550 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 565 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 326 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 262 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 594 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 679 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 587 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 511 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 500 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 709 Views
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