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Why do left wingers all have such poor reading comprehension skills? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 15/03/2016 01:03:10 AM

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Nice skipping over the failures of Nixon, Reagan and Bush,

Which failures were those, and how are they relevant to my thesis? I did actually allude to Reagan's show business background, which is really all that is relevant to the central idea of my post.
but you started off by blaming Obama for the rise of Trump, so of course I wasn't expecting to see anything critical of the right wing presidencies over the last 40 years. You criticize Obama for "Hope & Change" but yet Trump is doing the same thing with "We're gonna defeat ISIS" and whatever other non-plans he's putting out there.
No shit, sherlock. That was the POINT. Trump is doing what Obama started.
I also don't see protesters getting sucker punched at any Obama rallies,
My point was not that Obama and Trump are identical, but that Trump is a progression of the deterioration of politics that started, well a while ago, but Obama was a notable step along the way.
and Obama never egged anyone on to commit violence in the name of a political movement,

As I pointed out, he didn't have to.
so your "argument" fails there too.

Only if I was trying argue that they are identical, which I wasn't.
Obama isn't/wasn't out there pushing an anti-white agenda (to Trump's all-white agenda),

Trump has done nothing of the kind. The only racist things you can point to in his campaign are typical leftwing slanders, inventing racial double-meanings where there are none, or pretending that his opposition to immigration is somehow racist.

Obama can't push an anti-white agenda, because, as I noted in my post, he depends on pandering to certain white sentiments. And he is, as I noted in my post, extraordinarily prone to reflexively taking the position in opposition to the white party in almost any newsworthy event, often before all the facts are known. As I noted in my post, there were any number of tacks he could have taken with the Trayvon Martin case, but he specifically chose to identify with one party in a disputed incident solely on the basis of racial solidarity, and rather flagrantly violating his obligations as the highest law enforcement official in the country to afford anyone accused of a crime the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.



and Obama didn't incite his followers to violence while pretending he didn't do just that very thing.

As I noted in my post, Obama didn't have to do that stuff, since he merely had to create the narrative image, and let those who believed in it do his dirty work. A point the leftwing is fond of making is that disenfranchised people often feel like they have no other recourse but violence, and as I noted in my post, that is what draws a lot of people towards Trump's combative rhetoric - the belief that with the left's hegemony over the media and especially the entertainment media, they are constantly under attack and never getting a fair hearing. The last national Republican candidate to really be embraced the way Trump was, was Sarah Palin, who was slandered, parodied and mocked on mainstream TV as Obama never was, and was expected to have her debate moderated by a media figure with a vested interest in an Obama victory. Fast forward eight years to Trump refusing to attend a debate being moderated by a media personality he believes won't give him a fair shake, and it doesn't appear to hurt him at all at the polls. People are getting frustrated and pissed by this sort of thing, and they appreciate that Trump is fighting back. Inevitably, some of them are going to be fringe types who take the fighting-back literally, and after all the false accusations by liberals of Republicans inciting violence, can you blame some of them for deciding they might as well get the satisfaction of actually committing the crimes for which they will be accused?
I don't expect to get any kind of coherent argument back on these points, you obviously have way too much hatred of him built up to be able to see reality. In terms of presenting a valid case for Obama causing Trump's rise to power, let me say "IT STINKS!"

Hatred of whom? This is an anti-Trump piece, spreading the blame around to a wide array of figures on the left, and a number of recent trends. There is not a single thing in your reply that actually addresses any points I made, in addition to it being inaccurate on one of the few specific points you made.

And you have the temerity to preemptively accuse ME of not offering coherent responses?

Cannoli
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