Like I said I have no arguments with anyone who does not like his politics but I do object to people who want to defame his military experience with nothing but slander and lies. As your two links showed there are a large number of lies about his military service and they continue despite the fact that all of them are easily disproven. If you follow the Trump debate the Trump drones are still using these lies to defend Trump's insult to POWs.
His political career is pretty much over so there is not much point in debating that but as the father of a third generation Marine I do take it personally when someone's military record is slandered for political proposes. If you put it out front and center like Kerry did even though he knew there were questions about his service that it one thing but to just spread baseless lies is a entire deferent issue and it reflects on everyone who served.