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Trivial or not, absolute assertions absent even cursory verification invite trouble Joel Send a noteboard - 30/07/2015 11:12:01 PM

It is not like one needs a doctorate in history to know Queen Victoria was a Nineteenth Century monarch, after all, and presumably all members of a party as ostentatiously patriotic as the GOP know when the US revolution was (then again, there was that whole "Paul Revere avoided the British to warn them of the guns they already knew of" thing.... )


View original postThe southern dialect is closer to traditional English while modern British accent is a more modern construction.

Okay, that I might buy; I would not want to try disproving it, anyway. But the LARGEST English dialect? The South is what, maybe 100 million people? India alone has ten times as many people, and all the educated ones speak English as well as you or I (maybe slightly better than you. ) The EU has five times as many people, nearly all of whom start learning English in elementary school, mastering it well enough to move on to Shakespeare and other English lit by high school. Legolas is Belgian, but his written English could easily be mistaken for that of Londoner, New Yorker or Houstonian, and I am pretty sure which of those dialects he speaks. My wife is a natural mimic, so five years of marriage has her sounding like a native US resident much of the time, but she tells me her very proper English English teacher gave her the DIRTIEST looks every time she used a US accent (or dialect) in school.

I have as much US, Southern and Texas honor (not necessarily in that order...) as anyone, but that just means being secure enough not to reflexively shout, "WE'RE #!11111" about everything with no regard for whether we actually ARE #1 in it.

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Y'all, you guys, yous guys, or hey you all? - 25/07/2015 05:38:44 PM 1047 Views
Y'all may be the American South's greatest gift to the English language. - 27/07/2015 12:14:47 AM 686 Views
*whistles innocently* - 27/07/2015 04:17:43 AM 817 Views
"Hey, you guys!" is only correct if you are Rita Moreno - 27/07/2015 04:15:07 AM 650 Views
Perhaps, but you're also wrong. - 27/07/2015 04:45:48 AM 890 Views
Both spellings are "correct" to the extent EITHER are. - 27/07/2015 05:04:43 AM 871 Views
Funny.... - 29/07/2015 12:13:35 AM 751 Views
It is also correct if you are Sloth... on a pirate ship... *NM* - 29/07/2015 07:09:56 PM 553 Views
I will defer to you and Jeordam on that one - 29/07/2015 07:45:31 PM 725 Views
well since language is a democracy and the souther dialetic is the largest Y'all wins - 27/07/2015 02:07:22 PM 805 Views
The Southern dialect is the largest by what metric? - 27/07/2015 06:26:20 PM 798 Views
It also the accent most similar to what Victorian brits would have spoken - 27/07/2015 07:45:09 PM 720 Views
Whoa, now: The PIEDMONT accent may be closest to Received Pronunciation, but is not the whole South - 28/07/2015 12:37:56 AM 804 Views
I don't make the catagories but all the southern accents tend to be close *NM* - 28/07/2015 02:12:15 PM 503 Views
Except, as you noted, Virginias accent is closer to Englands (and New Englands, and South Africas) - 28/07/2015 11:00:46 PM 768 Views
that is not what I said - 29/07/2015 02:14:49 PM 779 Views
Sorry, I credited you w/knowing the Deep South, Appalachia and TX sound nothing like any UK accents - 29/07/2015 07:42:21 PM 727 Views
read slower and then read again until you understand what I said - 29/07/2015 08:14:19 PM 1002 Views
"The people in the American South were Victorian Brits"?! I must have read that too fast - 29/07/2015 10:39:08 PM 736 Views
Erm. Not really sure what you're saying here... - 29/07/2015 11:35:26 PM 688 Views
Would "UK English" have been better? - 30/07/2015 10:47:53 PM 735 Views
Not really. - 31/07/2015 07:30:41 AM 691 Views
David Crystal estimates proficient non-natives outnumber native English speakers 3:1 - 10/08/2015 02:45:58 AM 667 Views
Interesting stuff. - 10/08/2015 07:12:26 PM 766 Views
Sorry I did not put enough research into what I consider trivia but the point is stil valid - 30/07/2015 01:30:39 PM 767 Views
Ok they sounded more like the British at the beggining of the Victorian era - 30/07/2015 01:34:15 PM 801 Views
Trivial or not, absolute assertions absent even cursory verification invite trouble - 30/07/2015 11:12:01 PM 770 Views
Who says "yous guys"? Seriously? - 27/07/2015 07:56:28 PM 717 Views
B-movie mobsters - 28/07/2015 12:40:04 AM 889 Views
They said it when I lived in Chicago - 28/07/2015 02:10:27 PM 705 Views
Scots. - 28/07/2015 02:42:28 PM 748 Views
I have heard it a couple of times. - 28/07/2015 03:13:20 PM 698 Views
Isn't fake culture almos the defintion of hipster? *NM* - 28/07/2015 05:18:53 PM 369 Views
Depends, are trying to sound cool, like a douche, or Joe Pesci? *NM* - 29/07/2015 07:12:28 PM 559 Views
The distinction between the first two is negligible - 29/07/2015 07:52:50 PM 738 Views

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