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racist mass murderer finally brings about the end of the US Civil War 150 years after the fact moondog Send a noteboard - 24/06/2015 11:41:08 PM

i honestly don't know which is more remarkable: the fact that the emblems of a failed nation-state in open rebellion against the US government are finally considered passe enough that politicians are distancing themselves from them, or the fact that people are coming to terms with the idea that celebrating such emblems is a celebration of slavery and racism. i mean, mississippi of all places is reconsidering its support for the flag, as well as the various monuments to racism disguised as war memorials erected on official state property! and to think, it only took the mass murder of nine black people under the auspices of a racist agenda which used the battle flag of the Confederacy as one of its most revered symbols to bring this about, public protestations of the flag's symbolism for the last 50+ years notwithstanding.

i hope the sudden change of heart so many republican politicians have had is genuine, and not just pandering to the news cycle to score political points with the moderates they'll need to have any chance at victory next November. still, short of an outright ban on displaying the flag and its various forms, this has got to be the closest we've ever been to officially putting the "war between the states" to rest once and for all....

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racist mass murderer finally brings about the end of the US Civil War 150 years after the fact moondog - 24/06/2015 11:41:08 PM 969 Views
And everyone needs to stop watching Gone with the Wind! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 25/06/2015 06:45:09 PM 277 Views
White supremacists use the cross and US flag at least as much: Should we ban those "racist" symbols? Joel - 25/06/2015 08:09:30 PM 898 Views
The Democratic party has a worse history of racism than the army of the CSA. Let's ban that! Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:19:09 PM 733 Views
Not really, since the CSA was IN the Democratic Party then and is in the Republican Party NOW Joel - 26/06/2015 11:16:30 PM 652 Views
I never accused FDR of preparing for war, just of trying to provoke one; which only makes it worse Cannoli - 02/07/2015 10:20:37 PM 602 Views
Implying FDR simultaneously disarmed AND incited war insults your intellect, not his Joel - 04/07/2015 02:21:07 AM 723 Views
the question is: why do you want to continue to worship the symbols of slavery and racism? moondog - 26/06/2015 12:06:06 AM 632 Views
You are such an ignorant fuck *NM* random thoughts - 26/06/2015 02:09:29 AM 313 Views
now that's the kind of well-reasoned and thoughtful response i've come to expect from you *NM* moondog - 26/06/2015 05:54:05 PM 346 Views
No, the question remains why the cross, US flag and Confederate Battle Flag=racism Joel - 26/06/2015 11:28:22 PM 722 Views
The US flag was used to commit herindous war crimes against the Americans in the South random thoughts - 25/06/2015 09:54:33 PM 666 Views
But we won, so we get the final say on what is good or bad. Anonymous2000 - 26/06/2015 02:52:41 PM 623 Views
And we get to fly our flags in protest of the war of northern aggression *NM* random thoughts - 26/06/2015 03:27:59 PM 360 Views
if you can prove the US flag was specifically commissioned to hold on to slavery then make the case moondog - 26/06/2015 05:56:34 PM 600 Views
The accusation is yours: Prove the Confederacy was specifically commissioned for slavery Joel - 26/06/2015 11:44:59 PM 727 Views
You should read The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader if you truly believe that. *NM* Ghavrel - 27/06/2015 05:56:33 AM 351 Views
Read Lee stating his hatred of slavery AND secession, and love of the Union, if you do not Joel - 30/06/2015 06:01:01 PM 620 Views
Lee is one man who didn't hold office in the Confederacy, and he's an exception. Ghavrel - 04/07/2015 08:12:10 PM 768 Views
Stephens is also one man, and was not George Washingtons heir Joel - 09/07/2015 01:40:53 AM 703 Views
"a separation from the North-was the only thing that could prevent the abolition of ... slavery" moondog - 01/07/2015 09:55:33 PM 633 Views
Wikipedia ALSO has a whole ARTICLE on the wars causes; odd, when they could "just say, 'slavery.'" Joel - 01/07/2015 11:58:09 PM 840 Views
Lets play which General shuld be honored and you take Grant and I will take Lee random thoughts - 02/07/2015 01:53:29 PM 773 Views
To be fair, the scorched earth terrorism was not Meatgrinder Grants idea, but Shermans Joel - 04/07/2015 12:33:41 AM 717 Views
Honestly, the fact of the matter is we shouldn't ban anything Fox and Ravens - 26/06/2015 02:38:07 PM 677 Views
the only thing being banned is the display of such items at state/public buildings moondog - 26/06/2015 05:51:04 PM 654 Views
It' really funny you should bring up the Swastika Fox and Ravens - 26/06/2015 08:35:59 PM 726 Views
Again, state rights is why "if you dislike it, LEAVE!" is largely viable in the US Joel - 27/06/2015 12:02:32 AM 587 Views
The Stars and Bars was the Confederate NATIONAL flag, but otherwise, yeah Joel - 26/06/2015 11:57:08 PM 657 Views
All stand for the national anthem of the Confederate States Sports_Gambler - 30/06/2015 04:44:58 PM 791 Views
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