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Liberals consistently teach that in schools, despite conservatives calling it “revisionist history” Joel Send a noteboard - 17/06/2015 10:00:48 AM

Rockefeller DID build that American Beauty Rose all by himself (though Wikipedias liberal bias claims it had already been hybridized by others,) and how DARE you punish his success, you godless America-hating commie?!


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View original postAnd you think evolution was not embraced to fill the lack of a creation myth that undermined peoples' own personal lifestyle and rejection of religious restrictions on behavior? The first people to accept Darwin's theory were not paleontologists or relevant scientists, they were robber barons and wealthy tycoons, and degenerate people of influence, who faced rebuke for their public moral shortcomings, but lacked the authority of the universally accepted religious standards of behavior. The Rockefellers and their ilk were overjoyed, because here was an idea that justified them, with its fundamental tautology of "survival of the fittest" that apparently blessed their financial success as fitness.
Who thus needed no vindication by Darwin. You are welcome and encouraged to "fix" that but, again, the obstacle is not LIBERALS.

By virtually requiring a common ancestor for ALL terrestrial life, RNA and DNA almost irrefutably support evolution. They are no simple monolithic element of inorganic nature that species can discover and ingest or absorb, but complex assemblies found IN ALL SPECIES (viruses included) yet NOWHERE ELSE. Inheritance is thus the only reasonable explanation* for all places R/DNA does and does not occur, which mandates a universal common ancestor for all species (excepting that ancestor.) All that applies to an even greater degree with genes exclusively composed of R/DNA. The curiosity is that the same observed facts almost mandating a universal common ancestor ALSO almost mandate the first universal common ancestor began supernaturally:

R/DNA NEVER arises in non-living matter, and each species has R/DNA in common with others. Proteins and, later, amino acids have been synthesized, and more recently found naturally present in inert matter, but no more: Individual amino acids, not thousands or MILLIONS of them organized, bound and twisted together in a long, tight and self-replicating spiral. Yet the first universal common ancestor could not have inherited R/DNA (else it would not be first) nor had it transferred from another species (else it would have had no pre-existing R/DNA into which to incorporate new R/DNA.) So the first universal common ancestors R/DNA must have originated in it, which is impossible for inert matter, and all events beyond the natural are SUPERnatural by definition.

Even mere gene transference (i.e. not inheritance) only occurs between PRE-EXISTING R/DNA structures: Humans can incorporate R/DNA from a virus, but a rock or glass of water cannot.


Liberals teach the creation accounts of most major religions in public schools, too—in secular liberal Europe; that public schools in the more conservative religious US do not teach it is a US issue, not a liberal one. Yet no one (except Islamic states) teaches religion in SCIENCE class, because IT IS NOT SCIENCE, but theology; both metaphysics, but distinct branches of it, with distinct premises. Untestable=not science.*

Many of my first wotmania CMB posts advocated public school metaphysics class both for topics like this and to end my frequent annoyance at educated adults insisting no proof=no evidence (which is like saying no death=no injury.) Lo and behold, moving to the posterchild for secular socialist liberalism revealed its public schools mandate religion classes. They began as confirmation classes for the Lutheran state church, the darned liberals have since forced the curriculum to cover all major religions equally, but Christianity is fully represented and most people choose confirmation in the state church as part of their public education (in recent years the Norways secular humanist society pushed to permit students THAT confirmation, though I remain bemused about what exactly they “confirm.”) There are surprisingly many things like that:

Guns are common, licensed and strictly regulated, including the requirement to learn HOW to responsibly use and maintain a gun, before purchase.

While the US debates the legality of Week 20+ abortions, it is illegal here after 12 weeks, rare exceptions requiring doctor certification that carrying the pregnancy to term would severely cripple or kill mother and/or child.

Point being, the LEFT is not our problem, radical zealots (on both sides) are. Frankly, you ought to be thrilled: Almost the moment the New "Left" traded economic principles for identity politics, conservatism went from irrelevance to nearly global dominance that has lasted half a century (so far....)

The left is in retreat throughout North America, Europe and Asia under the onslaught of corporatism, authoritarianism and fundamentalism, and Africa and the Mideast are partly free of the first menace solely because the others are so entrenched. The sole "freedoms" still respected are "free" trade "rights" to own slave labor, poison (or own) local water supplies and sell kids lethal food, medicine and toys. Turns out repealing peoples self-government guarantees Social Darwinism runs amok, just as in the days of Dickens and Steinbeck. Your robber baron allies have gotten their precious tax cuts and deregulation (no, handing them public money to spend as they please just because they bankrupted a PLANET is not "regulation:) Made you rich yet?

Conservatism is based on the notion unaccountable people always do right; Christianity is based on the reality they NEVER CAN. No amount of blind drunken Twister can reconcile such mutually exclusive truths. Read less of Ayn Rand Paul Ryan and more of St. James.





*Yes, that also applies to speciation, macroevolution or whatever one calls it

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