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Well then why do scientists feel the need to make up their own fake evidence? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 05/06/2015 09:16:40 PM

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The two choices are evolution happened or god initially created fake evidence to make us think it did.

Darwin's test of his hypothesis was to assume the fossils were there and the paleontologists were slacking. The evidence I was presented in school was a fluctuating but stable population proportion of varieties of finches on a Pacific island, a gaseous experiment that has since been disproved as irrelevant to any known atmosphere on Earth, various fraudulent fossils like Piltdown man, inaccurate woodcuts of fetal animals, and staged photographs of peppered moths.

I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying that they have rather remarkably failed to promulgate any real evidence very well, and the vast majority of the population accept it on authority and custom...the way people mostly accepted religion for most of history. They use the word "science" as a totem or invocation, without the slightest comprehension of the scientific process. I understand and can argue better in support of the theory of evolution than most people I have met who adamantly oppose the teaching of any other idea, and who would outlaw even the use of the word "theory" (when they are not snidely invoking other "theories" they also do not understand, like relativity).

And like genital mutilators, if it makes them happy, why is it any of anyone else's concern that people teach their children that God made the world in six days? It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life when they start making their own world. One the other hand, a child whose parents give in to his adolescent whims due to the pressure of popular entertainment and the media, and "transitions" before he's old enough to vote, just might have more serious problems down the road if it turns out to have been a hormone imbalance, or adolescent impulse to rebel channeled against his own body, instead of society or authority or good taste.

Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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