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So you're guilty until proven innocent?? MonCul Send a noteboard - 06/03/2015 01:52:47 AM

View original postthis is why passing "yes means yes" laws are so important, because otherwise it's up to the victim to prove they said "no". it's the victim's decision to pursue rape charges. and it's up to the accused to prove they did not rape the victim. if a victim says they were raped, they should be believed until it can be proven that they were not raped. end of story.

In a situation where both parties were inebriated, how exactly do you prove you did not rape someone?

Would: "He/She never said 'No'" work?

How about: "He/She moaned and made other pleasurable noises throughout"?

If going in a jury has to assume the accused did indeed rape the accuser, I doubt that would be good enough. What sort of defense do you use when the obligation of proving your innocence lies on you? You wouldn't be a defendant at that point, you would be on offense.

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Drunk Sex - 03/03/2015 03:32:30 PM 1293 Views
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It's worth reading the BBC and Telegraph articles your article links to. - 03/03/2015 06:23:32 PM 962 Views
I am more interested in the trend in general and not this specific law - 03/03/2015 07:10:20 PM 781 Views
A lot of those studies are based on adjusting the goalposts for rape - 04/03/2015 12:58:06 AM 628 Views
[citation needed] - 04/03/2015 10:13:38 PM 607 Views
They'd better enforce it equally *NM* - 03/03/2015 06:28:38 PM 294 Views
Just like hate crime is enforced equally? *NM* - 03/03/2015 07:10:45 PM 305 Views
Exactly. I don't have high hopes *NM* - 03/03/2015 09:10:40 PM 401 Views
it's pretty simple actually: don't take advantage of someone who isn't in their right state of mind - 03/03/2015 11:21:54 PM 559 Views
But they are making it complicated - 04/03/2015 12:12:27 AM 614 Views
no, it's actually turning the burden of proof onto the accused as it should be - 04/03/2015 10:09:59 PM 775 Views
Re: no, it's actually turning the burden of proof onto the accused as it should be - 04/03/2015 11:29:00 PM 642 Views
Yes - 05/03/2015 09:21:41 PM 801 Views
Why are women having sex the only people immune from bad decisions while intoxicate? - 04/03/2015 03:59:31 PM 631 Views
who are you to decide what is rape and what is not? - 04/03/2015 09:55:35 PM 682 Views
The only rational one the in this conversation by all appearances. - 05/03/2015 02:39:56 AM 638 Views
So you're guilty until proven innocent?? - 06/03/2015 01:52:47 AM 879 Views
They get around all that proof stuff by keeping it out of the courts - 09/03/2015 04:34:21 PM 596 Views
And that shit is happening ALL THE TIME. - 09/03/2015 04:57:53 PM 685 Views
i think you may be pushing your personal bias on the author. - 06/03/2015 06:42:15 PM 786 Views

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