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View original postThose in the West did too, not that long ago, even if the more extreme kinds like witch-burning are rather longer ago. These are things that of course have to change, here the silent majority has to change its view, but you can't expect them to change overnight, and the more Muslims have the impression that their religion is under attack, the less open they'll be to that kind of change.

This is essentially what I wanted to point out. It won't change immediately, or even quickly, especially w/o outside support. Education and openness are needed, though it's obviously difficult when frequent acts of senseless violence cloud the issue.



View original postI think the Muslims in the United States are more tolerant because they are richer and better educated, more than anything else. Simple economic factors explain why the Muslim immigrants who could afford to go as far as the US have thrived there, much more so than the ones who couldn't afford to go further than Europe - but, from there, can easily return to their homelands on a yearly basis, and in so doing voluntarily place themselves in a kind of neither-here-nor-there position.

And this. Money, education, real access to people who aren't like them, money.
View original postThey can and must keep saying it: not in our name, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFBQEjghDOw">this is not us</a>, we as the silent majority of believers deny that this is the real Islam. But as a statement of intention, a spur to action, not as a way of denying the problem.

And yes again. Yes, please.
View original postI think you're conflating issues there that can't be resolved in the same way or at the same time. Ending terrorism and religiously motivated murder is a more concrete, short term goal than generally changing people's mindsets and having them embrace pluralism and full freedom of religion and expression - those last ones seem more like something happening across generations.

We were allowed to learn this way; as much as we might want to put a stop to the violence now, it just won't work w/o time and acceptance/inclusion of those who aren't committing the violence. It has to be seen and condemned from within those communities as a real offense and a crime, rather than an option for martyrdom.
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