so you r argument is don't believe the evidience believe what some dude oonthe internet said? *NM*
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 04/12/2014 07:28:01 PM
View original postthe facts as they are known in this case are:
View original post* Wilson had zero notice that Brown was involved in a robbery of any kind whatsoever, even the Ferguson Police chief acknowledged that grudgingly before backtracking on his story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html
View original post* Brown died over 130 feet away from Wilson's vehicle, not the 35 ft Wilson keeps/kept claiming
View original post* Ferguson and St. Louis police departments refused to file a police report of the incident, and when pressed on when it would be available replied it would never be available to the public
View original postthe rest of the case is up for debate, although it's quite unusual that Wilson would be allowed four straight hours to paint the picture of the calm and collected cop just trying to make the streets safer for everybody, but Dorian Johnson was cross-examined in an effort to undermine his testimony and tie the shooting to the robbery which has already been established as having zero to do with the altercation between Brown and Wilson.
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View original postThe grand jury got all the information that was available, contradictory as it was, and came to that conclusion, so I'm inclined to assume that their conclusion is more likely than the one of Brown's defenders. Which doesn't have to mean Brown's intent had to be homicidal, merely that Wilson had to have a good reason to believe it was.
View original postBut the conclusion that American cops are killing civilians at a stupefying rate is inevitable, and regardless of the exact circumstances of this case, something needs to be done about that. Probably people picked the wrong case to make a big deal out of, but the basic point is not wrong. And I think there is more agreement on that broader point than you'd think by just looking at this case, where both sides are just staying in their usual trenches shooting at each other, disputing not just the interpretation but even the facts - it's difficult to swallow your words and change your mind on a topic as sensitive as this one, unless you're a total outsider (like me).
View original postBut that law enforcement is increasingly using excessive violence, that SWAT teams are being used for the most absurd purposes, those are points that conservatives can agree with as well, I think.
View original posti wish we had enough critical thinkers in this country to realize that sending SWAT teams in to collect on a parking ticket is an over-excessive use of force. unfortunately, there are too many who are willing to give police a wider and wider leeway to abuse their position of authority and just look the other way.
Ferguson Grand Jury Decision - Good Call!
29/11/2014 01:29:14 PM
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Grand Juries don't determine guilt or innocence.
29/11/2014 04:36:35 PM
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we do not subject people to trail whne there is little to no chance of conviction
30/11/2014 02:07:10 PM
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If they really need a trial to sort this out they could try Dorian Johnson as accesory to murder
30/11/2014 09:18:44 PM
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Nonsense
30/11/2014 06:57:39 AM
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Well your post is nonsense but I am not sure thats is what you meant
30/11/2014 03:51:30 PM
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I was going to reply, but you already wiped up the mess. Thanks! *NM*
30/11/2014 08:55:31 PM
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According to a member here who supports the murder-by-cop version of the Walmart story...
01/12/2014 03:56:56 AM
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watch the crawford video yourself and tell us where you think he deserved to die
04/12/2014 06:19:11 PM
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Re: Well your post is nonsense but I am not sure thats is what you meant
01/12/2014 09:11:38 AM
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Your argument seems to rest on the idea that Brown was behaving rationalyand your persoanl bias
01/12/2014 01:32:20 PM
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Yes, Germans sound exactly like the kind of people who pick fights with cops...
01/12/2014 04:02:02 AM
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Well...
01/12/2014 11:03:51 PM
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and a cryihg shame you don't have such a peice of paper
02/12/2014 01:37:38 PM
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LOL
02/12/2014 04:07:06 PM
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Indians were foreigners. We didn't have an elected government murdering our own.
03/12/2014 11:34:53 PM
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the indigenous population were "foreigners"? that is to laugh....
04/12/2014 07:56:22 PM
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just because you lack the intilect to undestand a concept does make it invalid
04/12/2014 11:08:57 PM
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The problem is the usual one in American politics - people don't even agree on the facts anymore.
30/11/2014 06:23:34 PM
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The problem is people are ignoring the facts and the media is leading the charge *NM*
01/12/2014 01:33:43 PM
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I agree completely, but probably not for the same reasons. *NM*
01/12/2014 08:21:46 PM
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You can't really beliee there are any facts that support the idea the Wilson should be charged?
01/12/2014 11:38:27 PM
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I honestly don't feel like discussing that with you, because nuance doesn't seem to be a thing.
02/12/2014 09:54:53 PM
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Sorry but I am just have a hard time finding anyone making a valid argument that GJ was wrong
03/12/2014 02:13:47 PM
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That isn't my argument.
03/12/2014 10:04:39 PM
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Re: That isn't my argument.
04/12/2014 08:06:38 PM
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rampid stupidity it the real problem and thank for demonstraing that
04/12/2014 11:06:49 PM
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How many people on "your" side waited for these facts to make up their mind?
01/12/2014 08:30:03 PM
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Well, that was my position when moondog posted the first time on this site
03/12/2014 11:31:35 PM
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the problem is that facts are often taken for granted when the police are supplying them
04/12/2014 06:25:57 PM
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so you r argument is don't believe the evidience believe what some dude oonthe internet said? *NM*
04/12/2014 07:28:01 PM
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good job ignoring the facts in the case. you'd make a great DA when Robert McCulloch retires *NM*
04/12/2014 07:55:47 PM
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good job make stupiud statements with nothing to back them up *NM*
04/12/2014 10:59:38 PM
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