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there are too many examples of "Christians" hiding behind their faith to avoid complying with laws moondog Send a noteboard - 02/07/2014 12:31:31 AM

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that outrage you feel...that anger and what not that frustrates you so dramatically....

That same feeling is also felt by those on the oposite sides of the decisions that you favor.

In regards to the insurance plans, would you rather have the company decide to not offer insurance plans to their employees? That would force them to take the Affortable Health Care option. Let's remember that no one is forcing the employees of those companies to take their health insurance. If you don't like the coverage, choose another.

As for the rest of your post, I choose to view it as you being upset.

~Jeordam


yes, it's quite upsetting to me that a minority group of people who have a violent history of harassment and actual murder of abortion providers can claim they are only expressing their religious teachings, and that they deserve more protection under the law than the people they are hoping to harass and murder. if they wore the hijab, or keffiyeh or a turban, they'd be called terrorists. but because they are white and Christian, they're just citizens exercising their First Amendment rights

or, put it another way, if Occupy Wall Street showed up at Citibank headquarters and threatened to shoot everyone who worked there, or blocked the entrance to branch offices to prevent them from operating, we'd rightfully say they had gone too far in their protests and they should be prevented from allowing regular business to continue by setting up a perimeter beyond which they could not cross. but if it's a medical procedure only available to women, it's perfectly ok for a group of people to do these things and more and be granted more rights under the law than the women who seek this procedure. harassment is typically illegal behavior, unless you're doing it to a woman who is trying to visit an abortion clinic, then i guess it's now ok since last week.

as for an employer telling their employee to figure out their own coverage: yes, if they fall under the category by law which requires them to provide insurance to all their employees then they are required by law to provide such insurance. the company is not providing the insurance directly to their employees, they are buying into a plan which provides the insurance. it should not be up to the employer to pick and choose the coverage their employees receive. this could all be solved by creating a single-payer system, but we'll never have it because of companies like Hobby Lobby who think that they the legal right to impose their personal religious beliefs upon the people who work for them. if they don't want to provide insurance to their employees, that is within their rights as long as they pay the requisite fines that such action would dictate. but consider as well that if the company decides to provide the insurance, the employee has little to no choice about what plan they are allowed to receive. so your statement "no one is forcing these employees to take their health insurance" is, at best, extremely facetious.

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