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the outrage comes from "Obama Derangement Syndrome", which is yet to make it into the DSM alas... moondog Send a noteboard - 03/06/2014 07:48:09 PM

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If there's anyone who has a right to be furious, it's the Afghans, since the main accusations against the five (or some of the five, rather) are that they bore responsibility for massacres perpetrated against Afghans prior to or during 2001. I'm not sure just how furious they actually are, though; for at least one of the five, Karzai has been calling for his release for years. And the Afghan press seems to have <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27671637">mixed reactions</a>. If the Afghan government really was sidelined and they're not just saying that, they have every reason to be ticked off, but I'm not sure where all this American fury about the exchange is coming from.

The reaction of the soldiers in his platoon is a different story, of course, I certainly understand their resentment about him being welcomed as a hero if he was really a deserter who put their lives at risks during the searches for him. But that isn't really a sufficient reason for the government to not negotiate for his release.

Edit: I should add that I don't disagree with RT that this wasn't exactly good negotiating, giving up five high-profile leaders of the enemy in return for one insignificant soldier who was a deserter at that. I have no problem with the five being released, as such, but I do think a more substantial quid pro quo could and probably should have been obtained for that. But, again, it's mainly the Afghans who are affected by that, since the Americans are basically out of Afghanistan now anyway. And definitely will be by the time Qatar lets the five return home.


the problem is that there are a lot of people who are against everything Obama does, simply because he does it. at one point in time, it was a common belief that we leave none of our soldiers behind during a conflict. if Obama had left Bergdahl to die, these same people calling for Obama's head now for Bergdahl's release would have been calling for Obama's head in the other situation, because he would have let a soldier die at the enemy's hand. when even John McCain -- former POW John McCain -- says we should not have gotten this guy released, you can see the madness that has infected the "opposition" in this country.

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Obama negotiates with terrorists, gains the release of a US deserter and possible traitor. - 03/06/2014 04:44:35 AM 1529 Views
I don't think it is that cut and dry - 03/06/2014 01:00:16 PM 856 Views
It is now cut and dry, he is a deserter..... - 03/06/2014 04:18:21 PM 859 Views
Bull. Shit. - 03/06/2014 04:46:08 PM 991 Views
he has right to a trial - 03/06/2014 06:27:39 PM 813 Views
Well of course he does. I can't act as his judge, jury and executioner, either. - 03/06/2014 06:45:58 PM 972 Views
I think he is guilty as hell - 03/06/2014 11:24:02 PM 893 Views
I don't think he should have rot there, either. - 04/06/2014 04:05:18 AM 799 Views
I agree with with all of that *NM* - 04/06/2014 12:59:45 PM 472 Views
glad to see you put your politics above your country, tom - 04/06/2014 07:32:55 PM 847 Views
You're full of shit, as usual. - 04/06/2014 07:45:43 PM 789 Views
and you are more brainwashed, as usual - 04/06/2014 07:56:29 PM 829 Views
Moondog = braindead partisan hack - 04/06/2014 08:52:28 PM 769 Views
You really are stupid, aren't you? - 05/06/2014 05:26:38 PM 760 Views
thank you for having the reasonable approach to this - 03/06/2014 07:56:49 PM 839 Views
Obama is a weak fool - 03/06/2014 04:04:58 PM 788 Views
They should impeach the fucking douchebag. - 03/06/2014 04:48:28 PM 786 Views
I'm picturing you ranting to a half-empty bar as you wave a glass around, and it's amusing - 05/06/2014 03:52:15 PM 811 Views
Yeah, I don't really picture you at all. - 05/06/2014 05:20:48 PM 774 Views
Haha awww who's a Grouchy Gus today? - 05/06/2014 06:24:25 PM 776 Views
Sounds like you do picture him. *NM* - 07/06/2014 08:38:42 PM 390 Views
"Terrorists" doesn't seem accurate. Enemy combatants, okay, but even that was limited. - 03/06/2014 05:56:15 PM 869 Views
the outrage comes from "Obama Derangement Syndrome", which is yet to make it into the DSM alas... - 03/06/2014 07:48:09 PM 761 Views
Serious question....as Tom mentioned.....should Obama be impeached for this? - 03/06/2014 06:55:24 PM 754 Views
stupid answer: yes, impeach Obama at your earliest convenience *NM* - 03/06/2014 08:48:28 PM 523 Views
Funny that the military top brass agrees with it, then. - 03/06/2014 08:51:48 PM 846 Views
Sec. Gates was against it when he was Sec. of Defense, Panetta said hell no. *NM* - 04/06/2014 04:07:49 AM 412 Views
Yup, most top military leadership was against this reckless move. *NM* - 04/06/2014 04:26:16 AM 418 Views
STATEMENT BY JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF GENERAL MARTIN E. DEMPSEY - 04/06/2014 07:36:43 PM 805 Views
These people will say what Obama orders them to say. *NM* - 05/06/2014 06:17:14 AM 397 Views
Statement by Secretary of the Army John McHugh - 04/06/2014 07:37:35 PM 945 Views
lots of republicans were for Bergdahl's release before they were against it - 04/06/2014 07:42:45 PM 875 Views
you missed the one where they suggest trading high level captives for his return - 04/06/2014 09:37:22 PM 795 Views
Oh wait, that's because it doesn't exist... *NM* - 05/06/2014 06:18:11 AM 428 Views
you do know I was being sarcastic? - 05/06/2014 06:11:39 PM 910 Views
Oh yes. I was just adding to the general tone. - 06/06/2014 03:01:11 PM 781 Views
so you must know all the details since you're secretly a top-level government official? - 05/06/2014 08:41:14 PM 809 Views
was this a reply to the correct comment? *NM* - 06/06/2014 05:45:16 PM 431 Views
no *NM* - 03/06/2014 11:19:09 PM 419 Views
Guerrillas or insurgents, actually. - 04/06/2014 01:47:26 AM 987 Views
Does Bowe Bergdahl = Nicholas Brady? - 04/06/2014 04:30:02 AM 824 Views
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. - 04/06/2014 09:29:15 PM 777 Views
Absolutely not. - 05/06/2014 06:21:59 AM 763 Views
Re: Absolutely not. - 05/06/2014 08:43:55 PM 778 Views
You seem to have missed the concept of "Justified" in there - 07/06/2014 11:36:25 PM 989 Views
no, i'm pretty sure i got it right - 09/06/2014 09:37:49 PM 782 Views
Re: no, i'm pretty sure i got it right - 10/06/2014 03:43:49 AM 890 Views
a few facts you are neglecting - 11/06/2014 07:08:16 PM 691 Views
You may want to not paint everyone with the same brush there. - 11/06/2014 08:03:31 PM 779 Views
Thank you *NM* - 11/06/2014 11:01:58 PM 570 Views
I... don't really care, to be honest - 05/06/2014 03:17:25 PM 824 Views
I'm kinda undecided on this - 06/06/2014 03:32:16 AM 886 Views

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