Do you have a source where source where LBJ actually said that? *NM*
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 29/05/2014 01:17:44 PM
View original post"When the mid-20th-century white homeowner claimed that the presence of a Bill and Daisy Myers decreased his property value, he was not merely engaging in racist dogma—he was accurately observing the impact of federal policy on market prices."
View original postBecause that's the inevitable reality of government involvement in the market. Absent government interference, there would not have been an artificial suburban housing boom to be steered. But any sort of program to disburse reparations would just create similar opportunities for injustice. And forty years down the road, an almost identical article is written complaining about how the invisible secret racism ruined the reparations project and resulted in iniquities and other crap, that we need a NEW reparations project to fix.
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But you don't have to support such reparations to appreciate the article, it's a good read either way and clearly the author's concern is not money so much as an open and honest look at history.
View original postAn open and honest look at history involves including private comments as well as public quotations about such people as Lyndon Johnson. The author was absolutely in love with the white poverty/Negro poverty comment, but doesn't seem much interested in Johnson's gutting of the enforcement provisions of the 1957 Civil Rights Act or the political calculation in his switch to signing the 1964 Act, while chortling to his cronies "I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years."
View original postAn open and honest look at history might wonder at the insistence on collective punishment for the crimes of a limited number of dedicated individualists, who are characterized as much by their vision of separation from the whole, as their racism. States Rights and Slavery were the two issues of the South, and yet, they would punish people throughout the country for the sins of those who wished to be no part of that country, and did all they could to effect the separation.
View original postAn open and honest look at history might undermine the claims of the author and his ilk about the country being built on slavery, when the slave, and later Jim Crow, states were the poorest and most backward in the country. One can assert that those poverty-stricken states were deprived their share of New Deal money out of racism towards their large black (non-voting) populations, but the more probable explanation is that the purpose of the New Deal was much more inclined toward the re-election of its perpetrators, than alleviating any other problems, and thus the money was concentrating in the swing states. The South at the time was in no danger of voting Republican, as that was the party still popular with blacks, for both opposing slavery, and more recently, having anti-lynching planks in their national platform. Because of this one-sided political situation, the Democratic administration counted the South as well in its camp, and was more concerned with dispensing largess where it would help more in 1936 & 1940.
/History: The Case for Reparations
27/05/2014 07:08:52 PM
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my only problem is his conclusion is weak compared with the rest of the article
27/05/2014 08:31:54 PM
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Maybe because there is a lack of connection between the history involved and present day problems.
29/05/2014 01:35:04 AM
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sure, and i have a bridge for sale.....
30/05/2014 12:39:03 AM
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Re: sure, and i have a bridge for sale.....
30/05/2014 05:06:11 PM
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faulty assumptions of your heritage aside, the point still stands.
02/06/2014 08:54:02 PM
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Re: /History: The Case for Reparations
29/05/2014 01:54:48 AM
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Do you have a source where source where LBJ actually said that? *NM*
29/05/2014 01:17:44 PM
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IIRC, Robert Kessle "Inside the White House" or something like that.
30/05/2014 05:09:07 PM
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So some guy says some guys heard him say it? That isn't much.
30/05/2014 05:27:13 PM
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And LBJ or his estate would have allowed such a comment to get out?
30/05/2014 06:24:55 PM
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I agree that reparations would be extremely difficult if not impossible to implement fairly.
29/05/2014 06:52:47 PM
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Re: I agree that reparations would be extremely difficult if not impossible to implement fairly.
30/05/2014 06:19:33 PM
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Re: I agree that reparations would be extremely difficult if not impossible to implement fairly.
01/06/2014 05:36:20 PM
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Re: I agree that reparations would be extremely difficult if not impossible to implement fairly.
04/06/2014 02:49:13 AM
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Even without David Chappelle's compelling arguments against, I think it's a crazy idea.
29/05/2014 07:42:38 PM
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Not that I disagree with a single point you made, but wasn't the 40 acres & a mule thing a myth
01/06/2014 03:48:16 PM
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According to wikipedia, it was more than a myth, though not much more
02/06/2014 04:24:32 AM
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except the article is strictly NOT talking about cutting checks to black people
02/06/2014 08:59:47 PM
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sorry but I see no evidence he wants to have an open an honest discussion
02/06/2014 02:03:29 PM
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so it's only open and honest discussion if he shares your white world view?
02/06/2014 09:07:26 PM
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no it is only an honest open discussion if he recognizes that there are valid alterantive views
03/06/2014 05:17:18 AM
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here is where you lose credibility
03/06/2014 08:59:30 PM
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How does the inability to shop at Neiman Marcus hold you back economically?
11/06/2014 07:40:46 AM
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Should Europe pay restitutions for the damage they did to Africa?
03/06/2014 01:13:54 PM
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Absolutely, but only the handful of countries that actually have a colonial past *NM*
03/06/2014 09:28:58 PM
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that's not the way it works
04/06/2014 01:04:46 PM
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EU expanded to its current borders mostly in 2004. Also we aren't states, so leave EU out of this *NM*
04/06/2014 09:58:30 PM
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Again, there is an assumption of profit that is not necessarily true
11/06/2014 02:47:53 AM
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