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You do? Why? Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM

View original postCheck out this lovely video by the BBC. These are the people who are really in charge of Kiev (because they have guns). While we can debate the extent to which they pose an existential threat to the Russians in Crimea and the Eastern part of the Ukraine, the fact is that Russia lost 20 million people in World War II and many survivors are still alive, and stories like this have been played in Russia and struck a nerve. I don't think Russians have been this angry since World War II with another country.

I don't think they are "really in charge of Kiev". But yeah, of course I understand what the Russophones in Ukraine and the Russians must think of that (if we ignore for a moment Russia's own far-right and ultranationalist elements...).

What do you think of this analysis?

View original postAnd yes, I posted this on Facebook, too.

Have to say that guy acting as a Putin cheerleader in that Facebook update of yours rather confused me with all the LOLs. Does he really support Putin, or is he just that disgusted with Western foreign policy that he has sympathy for any realpolitik-practicing autocrat who ignores the sensitivities of the West, be it Putin or Al-Sisi?

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Don't Make me Laugh, Mr. Obama Tom - 01/03/2014 03:14:50 AM 1436 Views
i like obama and even i think that was dumb of him. *NM* temeraire - 01/03/2014 05:24:39 AM 510 Views
yep yep. why do you hate on Kerry, though ? *NM* AgentApple - 01/03/2014 08:11:52 AM 417 Views
He's a useless asshat. *NM* Tom - 01/03/2014 04:14:54 PM 426 Views
He's not the only lame duck in this, though. DomA - 01/03/2014 05:41:01 PM 965 Views
It's a little more complicated than that, I think. Legolas - 01/03/2014 07:42:20 PM 824 Views
It's always more complicated... DomA - 01/03/2014 08:57:54 PM 812 Views
Yes yes yes. This. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:11:19 PM 760 Views
Well, we split on that then - I most certainly do not support such an annexation. Legolas - 01/03/2014 10:25:48 PM 761 Views
Any reason you keep misspelling Sevastopol? Tom - 02/03/2014 12:52:01 AM 948 Views
You write "the Ukraine", while calling me old-fashioned? Legolas - 02/03/2014 01:57:58 AM 819 Views
Yes. Dropping "the" is an anti-Russian move. It will always be the Ukraine. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:58:32 AM 830 Views
Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. Legolas - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM 770 Views
I say the Sudan and the Congo. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:17:33 PM 818 Views
You do? Why? Legolas - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM 903 Views
As with most analysis at the Guardian, I think it's wrong. Tom - 02/03/2014 05:00:20 PM 825 Views
This one from a former advisor of Reagan-Bush might be closer to your views DomA - 05/03/2014 09:01:13 PM 969 Views
" la Crimée vaut bien un tiramisu" - I liked that. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:06:55 PM 834 Views
Yeah, I laughed reading that too. The original piece in English was probably better... DomA - 06/03/2014 02:08:03 AM 819 Views
I don't think it's limited to Crimea. They will likely occupy Eastern Ukraine as well. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:08:56 PM 783 Views
its going to be hard to find support from the West MrFarstrider - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM 769 Views
Well, no one in Europe or the US has any direct interest here. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:13:36 PM 724 Views
Obama is weak and is viewed as a joke by most of the world. Anonymous2000 - 03/03/2014 04:12:25 PM 699 Views
Don't worry, not as much as the ape before him *NM* ironclad - 04/03/2014 03:23:14 PM 446 Views
So what's your plan of action? Jay Sherman - 03/03/2014 11:25:59 PM 778 Views
My plan of action is to let Putin have Ukraine. We have no interests there. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 01:29:45 AM 459 Views
Ehem. Why are you being anti-Russian? ;-) The Shrike - 04/03/2014 01:25:37 PM 806 Views
Lack of space in a subject line that was the entire message. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:21:49 PM 780 Views
I watch дождь via etvnet.com. Lovely site for all Russian TV. The Shrike - 04/03/2014 08:23:58 PM 776 Views
I like their criticism of Putin generally, but I don't buy the "enemy of my enemy" position. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:39:15 PM 733 Views
Of course we do random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:57:09 PM 795 Views
Wrong. Tom - 04/03/2014 06:04:31 PM 708 Views
that ignores the point random thoughts - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM 953 Views
No, it doesn't. Tom - 06/03/2014 02:57:16 PM 738 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. random thoughts - 06/03/2014 06:22:32 PM 795 Views
Yes, the US violated the agreement. Tom - 06/03/2014 07:27:23 PM 850 Views
I have answered your question but you have still refused to answer my point random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:48:53 PM 778 Views
You assume that the Ukraine's borders should be inviolate. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:56:45 PM 794 Views
Russia signed an agreement to not violate those borders random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:18:37 PM 749 Views
Yes, and we signed the UN Charter, but invaded Kosovo anyway. Your point? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:10:33 PM 724 Views
Oh, and now the West is talking about $15 billion in loans for Ukraine. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:41:12 PM 744 Views
And you see that as the same thing as sending in troops? random thoughts - 06/03/2014 01:37:28 PM 744 Views
I think you've listened to too much propaganda from the 1990s. Tom - 06/03/2014 03:06:18 PM 711 Views
More like the 80s random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:50:43 PM 762 Views
So I guess traveling to Russia extensively is of no value. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:58:00 PM 708 Views
in this case no it doesn't. random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:20:13 PM 724 Views
Right...do you understand how stupid that made you sound? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:11:34 PM 699 Views
Or alternatively, it made him sound as someone who was just referring to something else than you. Legolas - 10/03/2014 08:14:00 PM 759 Views
The junk they used in Chechnya was laughable... everynametaken - 16/03/2014 01:51:28 AM 896 Views
Its a great time to throw some missiles in Poland MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 03:43:24 AM 799 Views
Call me crazy, but I like this idea! MonCul - 04/03/2014 12:31:07 PM 856 Views
There are no longer two super powers *NM* random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:40:16 PM 421 Views
Under Obama, it would seem there are none. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 06:15:27 PM 400 Views
at Poland *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 08:09:14 PM 406 Views
In case you're not familiar with BMD MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 11:13:06 PM 805 Views
I know what you're talking about, I was just kidding around *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 11:41:20 PM 434 Views
*NM* MrFarstrider - 05/03/2014 12:38:54 AM 428 Views
*NM* ßelals Girl - 05/03/2014 01:00:57 AM 396 Views
Ron Paul, interestingly enough, agrees with me. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:38:44 PM 745 Views
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