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You do? Why? Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM

View original postCheck out this lovely video by the BBC. These are the people who are really in charge of Kiev (because they have guns). While we can debate the extent to which they pose an existential threat to the Russians in Crimea and the Eastern part of the Ukraine, the fact is that Russia lost 20 million people in World War II and many survivors are still alive, and stories like this have been played in Russia and struck a nerve. I don't think Russians have been this angry since World War II with another country.

I don't think they are "really in charge of Kiev". But yeah, of course I understand what the Russophones in Ukraine and the Russians must think of that (if we ignore for a moment Russia's own far-right and ultranationalist elements...).

What do you think of this analysis?

View original postAnd yes, I posted this on Facebook, too.

Have to say that guy acting as a Putin cheerleader in that Facebook update of yours rather confused me with all the LOLs. Does he really support Putin, or is he just that disgusted with Western foreign policy that he has sympathy for any realpolitik-practicing autocrat who ignores the sensitivities of the West, be it Putin or Al-Sisi?

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Don't Make me Laugh, Mr. Obama Tom - 01/03/2014 03:14:50 AM 1453 Views
i like obama and even i think that was dumb of him. *NM* temeraire - 01/03/2014 05:24:39 AM 521 Views
yep yep. why do you hate on Kerry, though ? *NM* AgentApple - 01/03/2014 08:11:52 AM 426 Views
He's a useless asshat. *NM* Tom - 01/03/2014 04:14:54 PM 439 Views
He's not the only lame duck in this, though. DomA - 01/03/2014 05:41:01 PM 984 Views
It's a little more complicated than that, I think. Legolas - 01/03/2014 07:42:20 PM 841 Views
It's always more complicated... DomA - 01/03/2014 08:57:54 PM 831 Views
Yes yes yes. This. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:11:19 PM 775 Views
Well, we split on that then - I most certainly do not support such an annexation. Legolas - 01/03/2014 10:25:48 PM 781 Views
Any reason you keep misspelling Sevastopol? Tom - 02/03/2014 12:52:01 AM 970 Views
You write "the Ukraine", while calling me old-fashioned? Legolas - 02/03/2014 01:57:58 AM 844 Views
Yes. Dropping "the" is an anti-Russian move. It will always be the Ukraine. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:58:32 AM 849 Views
Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. Legolas - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM 790 Views
I say the Sudan and the Congo. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:17:33 PM 843 Views
You do? Why? Legolas - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM 923 Views
As with most analysis at the Guardian, I think it's wrong. Tom - 02/03/2014 05:00:20 PM 844 Views
This one from a former advisor of Reagan-Bush might be closer to your views DomA - 05/03/2014 09:01:13 PM 993 Views
" la Crimée vaut bien un tiramisu" - I liked that. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:06:55 PM 860 Views
Yeah, I laughed reading that too. The original piece in English was probably better... DomA - 06/03/2014 02:08:03 AM 842 Views
I don't think it's limited to Crimea. They will likely occupy Eastern Ukraine as well. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:08:56 PM 800 Views
its going to be hard to find support from the West MrFarstrider - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM 786 Views
Well, no one in Europe or the US has any direct interest here. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:13:36 PM 746 Views
Obama is weak and is viewed as a joke by most of the world. Anonymous2000 - 03/03/2014 04:12:25 PM 722 Views
Don't worry, not as much as the ape before him *NM* ironclad - 04/03/2014 03:23:14 PM 454 Views
So what's your plan of action? Jay Sherman - 03/03/2014 11:25:59 PM 802 Views
My plan of action is to let Putin have Ukraine. We have no interests there. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 01:29:45 AM 466 Views
Ehem. Why are you being anti-Russian? ;-) The Shrike - 04/03/2014 01:25:37 PM 821 Views
Lack of space in a subject line that was the entire message. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:21:49 PM 800 Views
I watch дождь via etvnet.com. Lovely site for all Russian TV. The Shrike - 04/03/2014 08:23:58 PM 793 Views
I like their criticism of Putin generally, but I don't buy the "enemy of my enemy" position. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:39:15 PM 754 Views
Of course we do random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:57:09 PM 819 Views
Wrong. Tom - 04/03/2014 06:04:31 PM 731 Views
that ignores the point random thoughts - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM 976 Views
No, it doesn't. Tom - 06/03/2014 02:57:16 PM 755 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. random thoughts - 06/03/2014 06:22:32 PM 814 Views
Yes, the US violated the agreement. Tom - 06/03/2014 07:27:23 PM 875 Views
I have answered your question but you have still refused to answer my point random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:48:53 PM 798 Views
You assume that the Ukraine's borders should be inviolate. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:56:45 PM 820 Views
Russia signed an agreement to not violate those borders random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:18:37 PM 774 Views
Yes, and we signed the UN Charter, but invaded Kosovo anyway. Your point? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:10:33 PM 746 Views
Oh, and now the West is talking about $15 billion in loans for Ukraine. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:41:12 PM 764 Views
And you see that as the same thing as sending in troops? random thoughts - 06/03/2014 01:37:28 PM 764 Views
I think you've listened to too much propaganda from the 1990s. Tom - 06/03/2014 03:06:18 PM 730 Views
More like the 80s random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:50:43 PM 780 Views
So I guess traveling to Russia extensively is of no value. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:58:00 PM 730 Views
in this case no it doesn't. random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:20:13 PM 742 Views
Right...do you understand how stupid that made you sound? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:11:34 PM 722 Views
Or alternatively, it made him sound as someone who was just referring to something else than you. Legolas - 10/03/2014 08:14:00 PM 780 Views
The junk they used in Chechnya was laughable... everynametaken - 16/03/2014 01:51:28 AM 917 Views
Its a great time to throw some missiles in Poland MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 03:43:24 AM 823 Views
Call me crazy, but I like this idea! MonCul - 04/03/2014 12:31:07 PM 875 Views
There are no longer two super powers *NM* random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:40:16 PM 428 Views
Under Obama, it would seem there are none. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 06:15:27 PM 408 Views
at Poland *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 08:09:14 PM 414 Views
In case you're not familiar with BMD MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 11:13:06 PM 827 Views
I know what you're talking about, I was just kidding around *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 11:41:20 PM 443 Views
*NM* MrFarstrider - 05/03/2014 12:38:54 AM 437 Views
*NM* ßelals Girl - 05/03/2014 01:00:57 AM 404 Views
Ron Paul, interestingly enough, agrees with me. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:38:44 PM 764 Views
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