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Okay, that's scary. Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/03/2014 10:58:50 AM

View original postI, myself, can list the monarchs of the Seven Kingdoms Westeros better than those of England. In my elementary school, third graders were expected to list the Presidents in order, to the extent that I was astonished after leaving school to discover how rare that level of knowledge is even among American adults with a basic education. At one family holiday gathering I actually blew my relatives away with my ability to list all the states inside five minutes. There was an episode of "Friends" with that very game as a plot, and I spent the episode staring dumbfounded at the very notion that half a dozen college graduates could not do that. Then I found out it was not an inaccurate reflection of the level of general knowledge, which dialed back my expectations. Once I started teaching though, I opened every year of American history with a quiz demanding they identify the states on a map. I also made them do Europe & the Middle East when they bitched about it.

In here we were expected to be able to identify all countries of Europe on a map too, yeah. I'm inclined to say that kind of geographical knowledge is far more useful than being able to list the presidents / kings / rulers in order, though - at least when this listing in order is a goal in itself, instead of merely a consequence of having a thorough knowledge of history (which is obviously not feasible in third grade). More important to have a good idea about, say, the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Monroe Doctrine, the Mexican-American War, Manifest Destiny and things like that (to limit myself to older history), while only knowing the most important presidents, than to be able to rattle off the full list while not knowing much else.

Mind you, we did the same thing in primary school, with kings (not PMs) of Belgium, but there were only seven of those, eight by now, so it isn't exactly a long list to learn.

Of course, in the internet era where all this information is just a mouseclick away, having an extensive general knowledge is becoming slightly less important - but you do need to know some things, and perhaps most crucially, you need to be aware of what you know and what you don't know. What I find much scarier than Americans not being able to list their presidents or even not being able to find all their states on a map, is the absurdly high percentages in those surveys who estimate the population of the USA at half a billion, or a full billion (or, at the other end of the scale, at a hundred million or less). Because then their whole worldview, which translates into their political views, is based on completely wrong data about the position of the USA in the world.

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