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Why go to prison when you know you've done the right thing? The Shrike Send a noteboard - 09/12/2013 06:25:46 PM

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View original postI'm still quite divided by Snowden.


View original postHe said out loud what many have suspected for some time. But something about it still bothers me.

Same, there is a feeling, I think, that his motivations weren't particularly brave or pure, and that he hadn't really exhausted legitimate channels first. I'm glad the excesses are coming to light, but his flight, justified by fairly over the top claims of fear of torture and assassination, all couple to other things making him seem less a whistle blower and more anti-American. As soon as he was a international celebrity his most ethical choice would have been to come home and face the music, torture and assassination obviously being off the table at that point, though I don't think they ever were.


The most anti-American thing to do would be want to send him to prison. Especially given the inhumane treatment that Bradley Manning has faced.

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Guardian person of the year kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 02:52:49 PM 1371 Views
Good choice. Snowden is a true patriot. The Shrike - 09/12/2013 03:13:15 PM 949 Views
You know.... Jeordam - 09/12/2013 04:11:09 PM 946 Views
It's because I have libertarian(ish) leanings that The Shrike - 09/12/2013 04:36:13 PM 1038 Views
Agreed Isaac - 09/12/2013 05:38:36 PM 961 Views
Why go to prison when you know you've done the right thing? The Shrike - 09/12/2013 06:25:46 PM 918 Views
To prove it was the right thing? Isaac - 09/12/2013 07:12:34 PM 916 Views
Better to be free in Russia than rot in some American prison kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 09:10:20 PM 925 Views
Better for who? Isaac - 09/12/2013 09:51:09 PM 956 Views
Perhaps more in the eyes of the Americans? kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 11:10:10 PM 960 Views
In this context American opinion is the important one, since it is US policy under discussion Isaac - 09/12/2013 11:41:07 PM 944 Views
It would have been the right thing, and best for the anti-NSA movement A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:07:49 AM 991 Views
He did kind of lose his credibility by running to Moscow. Legolas - 09/12/2013 06:58:48 PM 879 Views
Running off to a police state to complain about a growing police state does harm credibility Isaac - 09/12/2013 07:30:59 PM 924 Views
Screw that. He's not obligated to martyr himself. beetnemesis - 11/12/2013 06:23:43 PM 900 Views
I think he would make a fine martyr *NM* random thoughts - 11/12/2013 07:15:51 PM 452 Views
We're discussing this in terms of "Person of the Year" *NM* Isaac - 11/12/2013 08:20:22 PM 452 Views
Of course he isn't. It's his own credibility and he can do what he likes with it. *NM* Legolas - 11/12/2013 10:00:59 PM 433 Views
Snowden deserves a bullet in the head for his betrayal of the US. Tom - 10/12/2013 03:42:37 PM 958 Views
In another news: Is Edward Snowden The Hottest Whistleblower? kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 09:15:34 PM 1044 Views
But if he was sincerely hot, he would have come back to be on America's Next Top Model. *NM* Burr - 10/12/2013 02:33:02 AM 785 Views
Well... Wibble - 10/12/2013 01:07:46 AM 1008 Views
Snowden is most despicable? A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:11:35 AM 973 Views
Re: Well... kHz1000 - 11/12/2013 12:54:52 AM 995 Views
It's the Guardian, so this isn't very surprising or conclusive A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:15:56 AM 947 Views
I couldn't agree more kHz1000 - 11/12/2013 12:47:25 AM 867 Views
I'm hardly knowledgeable on the topic A Deathwatch Guard - 12/12/2013 09:49:10 AM 976 Views
While i have mixed feelings about Snowden Stephen - 12/12/2013 04:56:37 PM 943 Views
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