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give a coherent reason for the shutdown and the label of economic terrorist will go away moondog Send a noteboard - 07/10/2013 08:11:27 PM

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It is a big deal but let's not get melodramatic here, we already had to put up with moondog's useless insane remarks on the subject we don't need another thread of wild hyper-partisan claims about how the GOP/Dems are all [insert over the top garbage, terrorists and communists seem the current favorites] bent on destroying the country.

glad to see you acknowledge it as a big deal. but as the saying goes: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

or to paraphrase Jon Stewart's take on the matter: the NY Giants got beat by the Eagles 36-21 yesterday. but they aren't going around saying "give us 16 points or else we shut down the NFL".

your folks lost the last election where the issue of removing Obamacare should have been settled. not only that, but you've had the better part of four years to actually use the legislative process to try to make it into something else. you've squandered your chances to do something useful and now all you have left is extortion and coercion. i could throw sedition in there too since i'm sure impeachment proceedings against Obama will follow the debt ceiling showdown. so if you don't want comparisons to terrorists or other derogatory labels then republicans need to show they have actual ideas. otherwise you're just manufacturing fake outrage in order to get what you want and legislatively behaving like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum.

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Government "shutdown" my ass..... Anonymous2000 - 06/10/2013 06:48:02 PM 1549 Views
Why would your government shut down your ass? Yunalesca - 06/10/2013 08:03:57 PM 1028 Views
Actually, it is... Dannymac - 07/10/2013 04:12:30 AM 980 Views
Must we do this again? Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:45:00 AM 964 Views
A whole generation has voted DNC twice. Dannymac - 07/10/2013 04:18:25 PM 799 Views
It voted RNC twice right before that, then DNC twice before that, then RNC thrice before that Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:18:31 PM 816 Views
elections are a cyclical affair by nature. the gop won't always be the party of stupid.... *NM* moondog - 07/10/2013 08:02:44 PM 463 Views
Not to mention they've gerrymandered like there's no tomorrow. Legolas - 07/10/2013 05:49:23 PM 865 Views
I hope we do default. ranagrande - 07/10/2013 07:04:24 PM 864 Views
Uhm. Legolas - 07/10/2013 09:09:45 PM 756 Views
Well it has been 70 years since we had a World War Isaac - 07/10/2013 09:37:14 PM 938 Views
You see in America we don't shoot stupid Roland00 - 08/10/2013 06:59:53 AM 768 Views
never going to happen Praziquantel - 08/10/2013 01:13:10 PM 963 Views
When gerrymandering there is no tomorrow, just the current decade Isaac - 07/10/2013 07:29:39 PM 854 Views
I'm curious as to why you say "unpopular bill" here Larry - 08/10/2013 09:02:49 AM 875 Views
Force of habit or slip of tongue, "Unpopular set of laws" Isaac - 08/10/2013 03:05:18 PM 883 Views
Ha! Larry - 09/10/2013 08:37:25 AM 884 Views
Bad enough, no? Legolas - 08/10/2013 06:32:06 PM 718 Views
Certainly Isaac - 08/10/2013 08:23:34 PM 960 Views
give a coherent reason for the shutdown and the label of economic terrorist will go away moondog - 07/10/2013 08:11:27 PM 972 Views
Why should I try to discourage you from using a label that makes you look like a fanatic? Isaac - 07/10/2013 09:23:40 PM 858 Views
i guess i should have put the disclaimer you asked for so you would know to be offended, is that it? moondog - 07/10/2013 10:49:43 PM 841 Views
It's pretty fucking sad any of us think we need a reason to act civilly, courtesy is its own reward *NM* Isaac - 08/10/2013 07:50:00 AM 496 Views
So you mean I shouldn't call you "an uncle fucking horsefucker" then? Larry - 08/10/2013 09:04:06 AM 792 Views
That's correct Larry, that would be unproductive Isaac - 08/10/2013 04:04:39 PM 880 Views
Of course it would; I rarely use such words toward people who might be still involved in a convo Larry - 09/10/2013 08:39:22 AM 787 Views
Re: Of course it would; [...] Isaac - 09/10/2013 05:25:28 PM 829 Views
hey, i've given plenty of reasonable alternatives, i don't see why you can't compromise with me *NM* moondog - 08/10/2013 10:09:44 PM 426 Views
Compromises? You've called my party terrorists and made it clear it wasn't hyperbole in your eyes Isaac - 08/10/2013 10:23:05 PM 867 Views
read what you wrote, direct it at your party, and look up "satire" if you still don't get it..... *NM* moondog - 08/10/2013 10:43:31 PM 525 Views
It's always painful when people think they're being funny or clever rather than sullen Isaac - 08/10/2013 11:33:36 PM 809 Views
remember that time when the Dems shut down the government to stop the iraq war? oh wait.... moondog - 09/10/2013 12:42:53 AM 859 Views
Probably a bad analogy pick, many of the Dem-initiated shutdowns were over defense spending Isaac - 09/10/2013 01:11:38 AM 772 Views
ok, henceforth instead of terrorists i will use "tea-hadists". is that more to your liking? moondog - 09/10/2013 10:26:36 PM 977 Views
No. Overdue, insincere, and half-assed attempts at marginal courtesy is not 'to my liking' Isaac - 09/10/2013 10:40:57 PM 831 Views
and here is the big picture, in a nutshell moondog - 10/10/2013 12:26:18 AM 907 Views
"Here's the big picture" remarks shouldn't start by complaining about your personal paycheck Isaac - 10/10/2013 12:37:34 AM 821 Views
i think 800,000 federal workers would disagree but YMMV moondog - 10/10/2013 12:44:29 AM 1085 Views
The GOP House already voted to give them back pay Isaac - 10/10/2013 01:21:27 AM 838 Views
the House is good at making empty gestures without actually addressing the causes moondog - 11/10/2013 05:17:34 PM 882 Views
How is agreeing to backpay an empty gesture? Isaac - 11/10/2013 05:37:58 PM 1200 Views
it's empty because the shutdown persists. end the shutdown and they won't need back pay moondog - 11/10/2013 11:02:20 PM 909 Views
Make up your mind, you complained early that you weren't getting paid Isaac - 11/10/2013 11:21:57 PM 798 Views
Clever. Did you make that one up yourself? I like it, will have to remember that one... *NM* Legolas - 09/10/2013 11:31:22 PM 446 Views
i can't claim to have invented it, but use it as you wish *NM* moondog - 09/10/2013 11:34:39 PM 472 Views
I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush... Larry - 09/10/2013 08:48:50 AM 884 Views
Re: I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush... moondog - 09/10/2013 09:51:22 PM 884 Views
That schtick got old a long time ago. You need newer, better material. Larry - 10/10/2013 03:43:31 AM 816 Views
you'll be rid of me for good soon enough, don't worry about it moondog - 11/10/2013 05:10:00 PM 1008 Views
I couldn't care less either way. Just make stronger arguments. *NM* Larry - 11/10/2013 05:55:05 PM 462 Views
you do realize you would come out a loser in said anarchy don't you? random thoughts - 11/10/2013 03:56:24 AM 856 Views
You do realize that when I say "there are moments when I..." that it implies something else? Larry - 11/10/2013 08:22:26 AM 916 Views
the republicans won more elections now the democrats have shutdown the government random thoughts - 09/10/2013 06:37:31 PM 868 Views
to quote Jon Stewart: "if you're gonna shut it down, OWN IT! Don't fart and then point at the dog" *NM* moondog - 09/10/2013 09:37:28 PM 485 Views
I agree. So now Obama and the senate need to step up and own it. *NM* random thoughts - 10/10/2013 06:02:56 PM 382 Views
That's about it. MonCul - 09/10/2013 12:36:30 AM 696 Views
Also, I wish you wouldn't egg them on Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:46:20 AM 835 Views
While I agree with your sentiment, "Big Government" is not a cause. Palatine - 07/10/2013 03:34:40 PM 1029 Views
Wow. Been a long time since we had a thread like this. I like it! :-) *NM* everynametaken - 10/10/2013 03:55:50 AM 452 Views
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