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Okay, how can you use the Trayvon Martin case AGAINST the stand-your-ground laws? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/07/2013 10:15:55 PM

Eric Holder, whose idiocy and blatant partisanship is making me reminiscent of Ashcroft & Reno and their ilk, apparently decided to lash out at the stand-your-ground laws in a speech to the NCAA, in reference to the death of Trayvon Martin. While we can be pretty sure which side Holder & the NCAA come down on in that case, how can they be upset about those laws? The justification for BOTH parties is based on that law! According to Martin's advocates, he stood his ground when confronted by a nosy profiler, and was merely defending himself, and his only crime was having the audacity to win a fist fight. In fact, stand-your-ground makes more sense for Martin than for Zimmerman, it being notoriously hard to retreat when a larger man is on top of you. Having the upper hand in the physical confrontation, on the other hand, is generally considered to be the appropriate position from which to call a peaceful halt to the proceedings. But under the principles protected by stand-your-ground, Martin was under no obligation to back off or kowtow to some guy who initiated the confrontation by accosting him.

Of course there are those who might contend that either party retreating (fleeing like a little bitch) would have been the better outcome and that Martin's death is a result of one or both men electing to stand his ground in a state which protected their legal rights to do so, but such people are little bitches whose possessions and women we can take at our leisure and their point of view need not be considered. In all seriousness though, stand-your-ground is the counter to things like Jim Crow. The opposite worked so well at Munich, after all...

Cannoli
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Okay, how can you use the Trayvon Martin case AGAINST the stand-your-ground laws? - 17/07/2013 10:15:55 PM 995 Views
You forgot to mention that Zimmerman didn't actaully use a stand your ground defense *NM* - 18/07/2013 02:03:51 AM 326 Views
the judge included it in the instructions to the jury - 19/07/2013 04:37:43 AM 550 Views
I love the let me say my piece then end the convesation tactic - 19/07/2013 11:50:02 AM 536 Views
Sources - 19/07/2013 12:35:39 PM 658 Views
so she did - 19/07/2013 01:08:08 PM 526 Views
um, when did the collegiate sports organization get involved in politics? - 18/07/2013 08:17:24 PM 915 Views
I imagine he meant to type NAACP. *NM* - 18/07/2013 08:25:26 PM 269 Views
It's a combination of even more guns in circulation and no duty to retreat if you feel threatened - 18/07/2013 09:13:47 PM 514 Views
blacks are incarcerated at a higher rate because they commit crime at a higher rate - 19/07/2013 04:31:06 AM 540 Views
[citation needed] - 19/07/2013 06:12:04 PM 481 Views
Don't be tedious, such a claim is unprovable but also the most logical inference - 19/07/2013 07:10:22 PM 541 Views
If logic says so, then obviously that must be the only course of action possible.... - 19/07/2013 07:44:44 PM 625 Views
Um, how'd you get that out of my remarks? - 19/07/2013 08:48:09 PM 508 Views
Honestly, I feel like we are getting into some dangerous territory here - 24/07/2013 06:25:15 PM 586 Views
I wonder what we can call the racism version of Godwinning. - 24/07/2013 07:01:20 PM 509 Views
Reductio ad Racism maybe? *NM* - 24/07/2013 08:16:28 PM 239 Views
We? I don't feel I'm in dangerous territory at all - 24/07/2013 08:10:24 PM 455 Views
lets look at your numbers becuase they are interesting - 20/07/2013 03:25:31 PM 509 Views

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