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Re: Initial stuff Avendesora Send a noteboard - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM

View original postI've always had embarrassing yields compared to my uncle with tomatoes, he lives in the same zone as me too, but I still grow more than I need. I've been doing more square-foot gardening raise bed stuff in recent years and that's helped but not as much as advertised, though it is God Awful easier to weed, the soil is so friable compared to the local stuff. My grandfather replication issue is rhubarb, it just never seems to come out the way I remember.

. My grandfather had gorgeous tomatoes. He ordered double plants accidentally one year. Even after giving them away by the grocery bag and eating them for every meal, I still canned 60 quarts. Rhubarb is nearly an invasive plant where I live, ha!

View original postMy only pest issues are deer and japanese beetles, and while my cats hang out in the greenhouse a lot I've never even run into one of the racoons in there and it's right next to one of the favorite hangouts, my goldfish pond, so I've never ratcheted up security besides in regards to wind. I originally just nailed some boards together as a doorway and hung a pair of plastic sheets but after I replaced the main cover with a translucent tarp I did the same for the door, I just have it bungied in place when not wandering in and out and hung up like a shower curtain.

Raccoons... I had one IN the coop (when the girls and boy were out so the door was open) last week. In the middle of the afternoon! Living in the middle of the woods has its predator issues, but I wouldn't trade it for the world. Which reminds me, I have to figure out what to do with my now-illegal varmint rifle.

Never had anything get them a night, we have lots of strong wire fencing all around including the top. we have hardware cloth w/half inch holes over the windows. I have seen lots of coyote and/or fox tracks in the snow this year.

I have the garden fenced off to keep the cats and chickens (and deer and raccoons...) out. I can easily open it and let the girls turn the earth and eat bugs for me. I mixed the pine bedding/manure mixture in during the fall, let's hope it's not too hot... Have to make a pvc hoop/netting cover for the hex shaped strawberry bed to keep the birds and chipmunks out. I have so much to do this spring!

View original postNever raised chickens, though I've flock of turkey that wanders by for a week or so about once a year, always wanted to try permaculture though and chickens seem to be the popular animal add in. Supposed to be a good compost additive but I always worry about the temperature inside my heaps not being hot enough.

. You should get some laying hens. I love it much more than I thought I would. Wait... you mentioned a fish pond. That means you need some meat and laying ducks!

View original postZone 6-ish, Erie lakeshore east stretch, odd-weather lake effect stuff. I should break down and grow grapes, it's the main agricultural product of my township but I've been doing strawberries and rhubarb and waiting with patient rage for my blueberries to finally grow or my dwarf apricot, though at least the blueberries most recent disappointing growth spurt I can partially blame on my new giant six-toed mutant cat Flax, I'd made the soil sandier and he seemed to think it made a good catbox.

You should grow grapes! Acidify the soil a bit if you haven't already, that'll help the blueberries. If you don't want to use miracid, you can use a few handfuls of crushed pine needles per bush mixed into the surrounding soil.

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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels -

Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1111 Views

As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 589 Views

I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 674 Views

That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 671 Views

Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 610 Views

HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 562 Views

and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 572 Views

Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 607 Views

Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 609 Views

Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 666 Views

The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 663 Views

it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 713 Views

And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 727 Views

Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 780 Views

Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 694 Views

you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 619 Views

Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 689 Views

i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 655 Views

I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 614 Views

since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 703 Views

A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 605 Views

Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 727 Views

Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 848 Views

I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 586 Views

Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 739 Views

Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 543 Views

Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 382 Views

Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 545 Views

As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 735 Views

How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 601 Views

Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 665 Views

Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 654 Views

I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 625 Views

No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 593 Views

Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 302 Views

Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 651 Views

I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 798 Views

*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 671 Views

Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 571 Views

Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 541 Views

Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 501 Views

Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 576 Views

Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 619 Views

Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 621 Views

I didn't know they make LED grow lights!

Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 768 Views

It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 643 Views

Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 722 Views

Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 629 Views

Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 770 Views

Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 667 Views

Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 513 Views

Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 641 Views

well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 609 Views

Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 566 Views

The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 579 Views

Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 566 Views

Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 472 Views

Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 515 Views

Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 551 Views

Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 571 Views

We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 545 Views

You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 558 Views

Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 652 Views

Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 593 Views

Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 624 Views

Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 614 Views

Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 618 Views

good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 645 Views

Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 612 Views

Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 619 Views

Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 719 Views

congrats on being part of the problem....

*NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 327 Views

It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 308 Views

Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 284 Views

Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 577 Views

Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 311 Views

I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 285 Views

You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 691 Views

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<quote id="274908">I've always had embarrassing yields compared to my uncle with tomatoes, he lives in the same zone as me too, but I still grow more than I need. I've been doing more square-foot gardening raise bed stuff in recent years and that's helped but not as much as advertised, though it is God Awful easier to weed, the soil is so friable compared to the local stuff. My grandfather replication issue is rhubarb, it just never seems to come out the way I remember.</quote>. My grandfather had gorgeous tomatoes.  He ordered double plants accidentally one year.  Even after giving them away by the grocery bag and eating them for every meal, I still canned 60 quarts.  Rhubarb is nearly an invasive plant where I live, ha!

<quote id="274908">My only pest issues are deer and japanese beetles, and while my cats hang out in the greenhouse a lot I've never even run into one of the racoons in there and it's right next to one of the favorite hangouts, my goldfish pond, so I've never ratcheted up security besides in regards to wind. I originally just nailed some boards together as a doorway and hung a pair of plastic sheets but after I replaced the main cover with a translucent tarp I did the same for the door, I just have it bungied in place when not wandering in and out and hung up like a shower curtain. </quote>
:rant: Raccoons... I had one IN the coop (when the girls and boy were out so the door was open) last week. In the middle of the afternoon!   Living in the middle of the woods has its predator issues, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.  Which reminds me, I have to figure out what to do with my now-illegal varmint rifle.  :rolleyes:

Never had anything get them a night, we have lots of strong wire fencing all around including the top.  we have hardware cloth w/half inch holes over the windows.  I have seen lots of coyote and/or fox tracks in the snow this year.

I have the garden fenced off to keep the cats and chickens (and deer and raccoons...) out.  I can easily open it and let the girls turn the earth and eat bugs for me.  I mixed the pine bedding/manure mixture in during the fall, let's hope it's not too hot...  Have to make a pvc hoop/netting cover for the hex shaped strawberry bed to keep the birds and chipmunks out.  I have so much to do this spring!

<quote id="274908">Never raised chickens, though I've flock of turkey that wanders by for a week or so about once a year, always wanted to try permaculture though and chickens seem to be the popular animal add in. Supposed to be a good compost additive but I always worry about the temperature inside my heaps not being hot enough.</quote>. You should get some laying hens.  I love it much more than I thought I would.  Wait... you mentioned a fish pond.  That means you need some meat and laying ducks! O:)

<quote id="274908">Zone 6-ish, Erie lakeshore east stretch, odd-weather lake effect stuff. I should break down and grow grapes, it's the main agricultural product of my township but I've been doing strawberries and rhubarb and waiting with patient rage for my blueberries to finally grow or my dwarf apricot, though at least the blueberries most recent disappointing growth spurt I can partially blame on my new giant six-toed mutant cat Flax, I'd made the soil sandier and he seemed to think it made a good catbox.</quote>.

You should grow grapes!  Acidify the soil a bit if you haven't already, that'll help the blueberries.  If you don't want to use miracid, you can use a few handfuls of crushed pine needles per bush mixed into the surrounding soil.  
 
</quote>

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