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as with most laws, some amount of grandfathering will probably be necessary moondog Send a noteboard - 20/03/2013 05:34:57 PM

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There are millions of 15 round clips out there and it would impossible to make them illegal. I think that we should spend more money on mental health but not because it will cut down gun violence.

Then again I am a RINO on gun control issues.


but in canada they have limits on magazine capacity, and people still own and use guns, and the law is pretty well enforced from what i understand. the main thrust of capacity laws is to prevent mass shootings from being quite so deadly, as the thought is fewer shots means more reloading time. but overall, i highly doubt the capacity bill is going to be as easy to pass as expansion of background checks, so this one may be dead in the water as well...

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US Senate Democrats - already cave-in on the gun control bill - 19/03/2013 10:44:55 PM 1319 Views
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Late Term Abortion, Terry Schavio? *NM* - 19/03/2013 11:57:25 PM 369 Views
You know, what you are hoping for will not make any difference whatsoever..... - 20/03/2013 01:07:58 AM 584 Views
"if at first you don't succeed..... fuck it...." - 20/03/2013 04:10:47 AM 607 Views
I can agree with some of what you stated, though I prefer "logical" to "right winger" - 20/03/2013 01:56:34 AM 638 Views
you are correct. i forget sometimes that there **is** some common ground here.... - 20/03/2013 04:19:13 AM 563 Views
There'd be more common ground if anything were ever offered in exchange for concessions - 20/03/2013 02:20:26 PM 602 Views
Ben Franklin said it best... - 20/03/2013 04:14:45 PM 601 Views
interesting how that quote always applies to so many things, isn't it? - 20/03/2013 05:14:30 PM 563 Views
Absolutely - 21/03/2013 12:20:45 AM 639 Views
if there have to be concessions, what do you recommend? - 20/03/2013 05:10:53 PM 668 Views
That would depend, something of equal value - 20/03/2013 09:13:23 PM 563 Views
when very little is being given up, how do we determine equal value? - 20/03/2013 10:31:59 PM 837 Views
Outside of legislature people do it all the time, its called negotiation and bargaining - 21/03/2013 10:53:22 AM 589 Views
Re: Outside of legislature people do it all the time, its called negotiation and bargaining - 21/03/2013 07:16:57 PM 639 Views
Re: Outside of legislature people do it all the time, its called negotiation and bargaining - 21/03/2013 08:53:20 PM 730 Views
some answers - 21/03/2013 10:04:45 PM 964 Views
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I already knew we disagreed, that's why I suggested bargaining - 22/03/2013 11:11:04 PM 548 Views
i am merely taking the NRA at their word(s) - 23/03/2013 12:13:18 AM 528 Views
Re: i am merely taking the NRA at their word(s) - 23/03/2013 02:04:39 AM 778 Views
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I think you've actually managed to widen our gap - 23/03/2013 03:53:55 PM 758 Views
I can see the argument for limiting magazine capapcity but it would be hard to enforce - 20/03/2013 05:11:51 PM 568 Views
as with most laws, some amount of grandfathering will probably be necessary - 20/03/2013 05:34:57 PM 548 Views
It would be a stupid meaningless "feel good" law as changing magazines takes almost no time. *NM* - 21/03/2013 01:05:34 PM 315 Views
I can't argue that - 21/03/2013 06:14:09 PM 587 Views
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What you are not factoring into your though process is that most criminals feels the same way. - 24/03/2013 12:56:04 PM 859 Views
I realize that can be the case. But... - 25/03/2013 03:32:59 PM 753 Views
Twice I was almost robbed, and my parents were robbed several times. - 26/03/2013 01:35:11 PM 470 Views

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