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Like I said, short conversation, once everyone uses the same definitions. HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 13/03/2013 03:28:52 PM

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View original postHealth Care is not Health Insurance, and Health Insurance is not healthcare.

One is the delivery of a service (health care), and the other is a method of paying for the delivery of specific services (health insurance).

Neither is dependent upon the other.

Once we can agree to actually use the English language, the conversation will be REAL short, but you won't like the outcome.


Though in this case I happen to agree with you, at least mostly; I just never thought I would live to see an insurer admit it. ;) I must add the qualifier "mostly," however, because most doctors contend delivering healthcare is, at least ultimately, dependent on payment. Maybe not by the recipient or an insurer, but they gotta eat, too; if all doctors starve NOBODY gets healthcare. I guarantee nobody at Blue Cross can remove an inflamed appendix.

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Like I said, short conversation, once everyone uses the same definitions. - 13/03/2013 03:28:52 PM 788 Views
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spoken like a true enemy of the state! - 06/03/2013 12:54:38 AM 719 Views
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I was not trolling, but clarifying. - 11/03/2013 09:53:48 PM 800 Views

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