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Thanks, it still leaves the purpose rather uncertain but random number generator seems ruled out Isaac Send a noteboard - 10/03/2013 05:10:05 PM

View original postI clearly see a kappa on the die, and kappa had a numerical value of 20 (iota having a value of 10). It also clearly has the first five letters in the Greek alphabet, which are 1-5.

Yes, from a math standpoint of generating random numbers while I'm sure I could think up a game that might be fun and fair of such a weird distribution, like Big numbers are infantry, medium calvary, small are war elephants, rolls ten times to generate you forces for the board game this would seem like something someone would do as an additional thing to use the dice for besides whatever purpose they were made for. Thanks for weighing in, all the associated articles keep calling them d20's and I'm glad to be able to but a definite no on that in my head.


View original postIf they're not using digamma or qoppa, however, they're generating 1-5, 7-9, 10-80, and 100-400 (likely) if they're numerical. It's more likely meant to represent the letters of the Greek alphabet, but I'm not clear how they decide which ones not to include. They might have just shown the first 20 (leaving out phi, chi, psi and omega), which would make sense if it was being used for instructional purposes - 20 sides, 20 letters in order. They could also have tried to leave out letters that were considered to be compounds, like xi and psi (k+s, p+s), but that still leaves them with 22 so I don't know what other 2 letters they could cut. I would say eta and omega, being longer values of epsilon and omicron, would be cut, but eta is clearly visible in one of the photos. Also, taking away aspirated versions of letters (like theta as a form of tau or phi as a form of pi) would be an option, but again, I see theta on the die in the photo.

There's some other ones with all symbols displayed here, I'm afraid I can't eyeball most of the symbols with certainty since I'm really only used to seeing the versions and types used regularly in modern math and physics. I don't see an Omega or Eta on them but I would only recognize them as the Ohm resistance version of Omega and the long-tailed lowercase n version of eta.


View original postIt's most likely just that they decided to "number" the sides the same way that we sometimes "number" clauses in a contract: a, b, c, d, e, etc. In that case, the likelihood that the die is meant to generate random numbers or letters is very slim.

I could see a game where you pulled a 'subject card' like birds, vegetables, tools, etc rolled the die and had to come up with a word that started with that letter, so you left out the less common first letters until you had 20. There's some others I've seen including the 2D foldout and this Roman d20, I don't know what the hell it means. I gather they found 12-siders with the zodiac on them too.

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