I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you. nyah, nyah, nyah
HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 02/03/2013 12:58:10 PM
Now that we have descended to kindergarten level can we stop with the name calling and have a rational discussion?
Can You Name the Largest US Program to ANNUALLY Collect More Than It Spent for 75 Straight Years?
28/02/2013 11:03:18 PM
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Medicare? *NM*
28/02/2013 11:38:22 PM
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No, Medicare has only been around about half as long.
28/02/2013 11:56:32 PM
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Medicare has its own problems, and caused many more. You really do not want to have this debate.
03/03/2013 03:03:15 PM
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No, I do not, because Medicare and torts are invariably scapegoated for all problems with healthcare
04/03/2013 12:52:37 AM
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I can argue with anyone on this (and have) btut first we need to break out that dictionary
04/03/2013 04:45:06 AM
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I am sure you can and have; ability to form arguments does not automatically grant them validity.
11/03/2013 09:56:11 PM
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Like I said, short conversation, once everyone uses the same definitions.
13/03/2013 03:28:52 PM
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From the way you're shitting yourself with glee, I'm going to say Social Security.
01/03/2013 12:45:50 AM
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Also unlike Ponzis, Social Security was not meant to profit—it just did anyway. For 75 years.
01/03/2013 01:55:46 AM
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It is a "Ponzi" by definition, any argument to the contrary just makes you look ignorant.
02/03/2013 12:02:46 PM
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Wait: An insurer is saying insurance is a Ponzi scheme?
04/03/2013 12:56:30 AM
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You are making even lese sense than usual... Quite an acomplishment. *NM*
04/03/2013 03:31:39 AM
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Maybe, but my math usually checks, and I never have to explain what I omitted.
11/03/2013 09:55:50 PM
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My math ALWAYS "checks" - it isn't personal, you are just making absolutely no sense, *NM*
13/03/2013 03:27:11 PM
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It's the world's greatest Ponzi scheme, since the government forces us to give money to it.
01/03/2013 01:05:05 PM
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Yes, "government forcing people to give money" defines a Ponzi; speeding tickets are Ponzis.
01/03/2013 03:53:02 PM
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Good lord my friend.....
02/03/2013 04:19:35 AM
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I will just link what Isaac said; maybe then you will pay attention to it.
02/03/2013 04:56:34 AM
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I really think you terribly misread what I said *NM*
02/03/2013 06:59:56 AM
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I really do not think I did.
04/03/2013 01:43:02 AM
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I'm pretty confident you have
04/03/2013 11:49:19 AM
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We evidently disagree on what constitutes a Ponzi scheme.
11/03/2013 09:56:27 PM
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No, I agree with a clear definiton, you seem not to want to absorb that
11/03/2013 10:24:47 PM
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Re: Yes, "government forcing people to give money" defines a Ponzi; speeding tickets are Ponzis.
02/03/2013 12:22:34 PM
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Fraud="money contributed is NOT invested for the contributor, but instead redistributed to others"?
04/03/2013 12:51:30 AM
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You can try and misrepresent what I have said all you want, you are still wrong.
04/03/2013 03:45:24 AM
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Dude, how is QUOTING you misrepresenting you?! And why must I ALWAYS ask that in these threads?
11/03/2013 09:56:18 PM
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Okay, that's a really weird or naive standard to judge SS by
01/03/2013 05:25:11 PM
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Great; will you put that on a postcard to Cannoli, A2K, Rick Perry and the rest of your party?
01/03/2013 07:39:44 PM
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I don't think I'd be telling them anything they don't already know... I mostly agree with them
02/03/2013 05:38:56 AM
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Means testing is flat out WRONG, and the contribution limit is a sticky debate
02/03/2013 12:43:09 PM
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Tell that to him not me, I didn't express an opinion and my implied one obviously doesn't favor it
02/03/2013 05:28:14 PM
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I was, I just hit the repy under the wrong post. He was the first to bering the two topics up. *NM*
03/03/2013 04:09:34 AM
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It is insurance against old age poverty, not a longevity lottery.
04/03/2013 02:00:24 AM
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It is not insurance, it is a pension plan, that also contains an overpriced LT disability insurance.
04/03/2013 04:00:42 AM
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Social Security Insurance; says so right on the label.
11/03/2013 09:53:33 PM
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You can call it BedroomWindowVitamins but it does not change what it acutally IS.
13/03/2013 04:34:42 PM
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"Sustainable"=/="profitable;" bankruptcy was not always a given, as your fellows claim..
04/03/2013 01:35:04 AM
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Sustainable often means profitable, they are not universally synonmous but both at once is ideal
04/03/2013 12:25:45 PM
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That is the IDEAL, but NOT point: Sustainability needs no profit, yet profit ensures sustainability.
11/03/2013 09:56:48 PM
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Your attacks on republican ideals would have more credit if you understood them
02/03/2013 04:27:34 AM
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An ironic charge, since their defenses of those ideals typically suffer from the same defect.
02/03/2013 04:51:32 AM
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I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you. nyah, nyah, nyah
02/03/2013 12:58:10 PM
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"Unsustainable"=/="meeting monthly obligations for 75 YEARS and still having $2.5 trillion left."
04/03/2013 01:03:09 AM
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Please look up the definition of sustainable. Hint: "its worked so far" isn't it.
04/03/2013 04:25:19 AM
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"As it is currently constructed/funded" is one HELL of a qualifier.
04/03/2013 04:41:30 AM
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You just don't get it, or apparently are so in love with your political ideology you won't.
04/03/2013 04:58:15 AM
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I believe if you check civilizations record you will find the human population has steadily risen.
04/03/2013 05:08:38 AM
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*sigh*
04/03/2013 12:15:22 PM
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Birth RATES have fallen; POPULATION steadily rose in every period except the Black Deaths peak.
11/03/2013 09:56:36 PM
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Ironic that you would make my point while arguing against
04/03/2013 06:12:29 PM
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?
11/03/2013 09:56:59 PM
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you mistate his posistion and then rationalize that you know what he really meant
13/03/2013 12:06:44 PM
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aH yes the great liberal investmetn/retirement plan that offers me a NEGATIGVE rate of return...
02/03/2013 11:51:50 AM
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Do you sincerely believe people earning $14,560/year can afford investing 4% of it?
04/03/2013 12:53:30 AM
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*sigh*
04/03/2013 03:43:08 AM
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I tried it with compound interest; $44.80/month at 4% for 50 years still does not get to $1.25 mill.
04/03/2013 04:24:51 AM
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Here are some clues.
04/03/2013 04:37:39 AM
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It is math, not the Riddle of the Sphinx: EIther it adds up or does not.
04/03/2013 05:02:39 AM
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Math is simple - Either you know how to calculate it or you don't
04/03/2013 11:55:24 AM
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SS is supposed to supplement a proper pension, not provide your sole income after retirement
05/03/2013 03:53:03 AM
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Did you bother to actually read anything?
05/03/2013 02:32:16 PM
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do *YOU* know what "living in poverty" means?
05/03/2013 05:49:14 PM
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Re: do *YOU* know what "living in poverty" means? --- yeah, I've BEEN there.
05/03/2013 08:01:33 PM
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how about respond to a post with logic and civility instead of being a troll for once?
05/03/2013 11:03:00 PM
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All I have used is civility and logic, or least as much civility as was warrented.
06/03/2013 04:28:04 AM
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yeah, it's my fault for stooping to your level....
08/03/2013 07:22:24 PM
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Re: yeah, it's my fault for stooping to your level....
10/03/2013 01:42:26 PM
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i'm not going to keep going in circles so i will finish with this....
11/03/2013 10:08:53 PM
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"Rah! Rah! Rah!" Can we please cut out all this blather and bile?
05/03/2013 11:53:41 PM
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