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Re: i understand your point about the reference NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 30/09/2009 12:24:45 PM
Insofar as I don't believe we're doing anything to cover the uninsured, I must agree with that statement. ALthough in fairness, we do already have a number of systems in place on the matter, and nobody has to worry about bleeding to death because they are broke.


The point is, the statement above is basically as misleading as the flawed WHO study. True, no one has to worry about bleeding to death because they are broke, but how many millions in the US forgo medication, proper preventative care, medical advice and etc and etc and etc, because they can't afford it? A couple of cases in point from my own personal experience.
There is a family that lives several houses down from me. Parents, three kids and grandmother. The wife had high blood pressure. Husband lost job and the wife's medical insurance was of the "catastrophic intervention" type. They couldn't afford better, so she stopped taking the medication she couldn't afford. She died two weeks ago of a stroke, she was 37.
I have health insurance, it's OK, not great. It pays $35/mo for medication, all other medication expenses come out of my pocket. I'm 60, and have slightly high blood pressure and slightly high blood sugar. My out of pocket medication costs are well over 100/month. To keep costs down, I test my blood sugar twice every other day instead of the recommended twice a day. I can take my own blood pressure and frequently skip my blood pressure medication if it's not "too high". I'm not as bad as my neighbor Sylvia was, but I'm still "rationing" my care due to monetary restraints.
Sylvia wasn't "bleeding to death" but she's still dead because they couldn't afford decent health care.

NaCl(and there are millions and millions and millions like us)H2O
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Senate Finance Committee Votes Against Government-Run Health Insurance Plan - 29/09/2009 09:08:40 PM 832 Views
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From a government employee: Nice post *NM* - 29/09/2009 10:17:48 PM 236 Views
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