how many responsible owners are going to be selling out of the trunk of their car?
moondog Send a noteboard - 06/02/2013 06:02:43 PM
If you drill down a little all but 228 of those deaths were males being shot. The reason for that is that a huge percentage are directly related to drug trade. Requiring background checks at gunshows will not have much impact on people who buy stolen guns out of the trunks of cars.
yeah sure, criminals will still find guns somehow, but i like to assume that responsible gun owners won't sell their weapons out of the trunk of their car knowing they could be liable for its use if it goes to someone who commits a crime. and also knowing that they could be prosecuted for a federal crime for not submitting a background check for the buyer.
again, it's about *reducing* the violence not *stopping*. we will never stop the violence but we can and should do everything we can to minimize its impact on everyone.
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1600 gun deaths and counting since Newtown massacre
- 06/02/2013 05:40:29 PM
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That is a tragic number but the laws they are proposing would have stopped very few of those deaths
- 06/02/2013 05:53:48 PM
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how many responsible owners are going to be selling out of the trunk of their car?
- 06/02/2013 06:02:43 PM
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You will never stop or reduce violence. Ever
- 06/02/2013 09:01:15 PM
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Perhaps, but we can still limit the damage done by controlling access to guns. *NM*
- 06/02/2013 10:38:06 PM
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There's a gigantic difference between the "stop" and the "reduce" you so casually equate. *NM*
- 06/02/2013 11:21:31 PM
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Is there? Without guns the rate of violence will fall heavily?
- 06/02/2013 11:35:27 PM
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Yes, there is.
- 06/02/2013 11:40:57 PM
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there are ways to reduce the violence but new guns laws are not one those ways
- 07/02/2013 04:29:01 AM
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best that we enforce the current laws then, as obama has directed in his executive orders
- 08/02/2013 05:59:22 PM
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violence, probably not as much as we would like. dead by gunshot? most assuredly so
- 06/02/2013 11:45:39 PM
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that is true but that is no excuse for feel good laws that do nothing but restrict rights
- 07/02/2013 04:24:34 AM
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I like how you say 'something more concrete' to describe 'nothing new'
- 06/02/2013 10:38:35 PM
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i guess in this case "more concrete" means "not just swept under the rug anymore"
- 06/02/2013 11:38:52 PM
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I don't believe it has ever been swept under the rug in our lifetimes
- 07/02/2013 12:40:55 AM
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we will have to continue to agree to disagree then
- 08/02/2013 06:06:38 PM
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This has more to do with resenting all the "...and another thing!" threads on the subject of late.
- 09/02/2013 12:18:27 AM
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