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Oh yeah, it has been a long time coming. Legolas Send a noteboard - 24/01/2013 09:24:17 PM
i visited israel in 2002 and even at that time, there were almost as many palestinians in the occupied territories as there were jews in israel proper. i think the biggest reason the right in israel can do whatever they want is because they always had the US to back them up on just about anything except the E1 settlements. as long as the US government supports anything and everything the israeli government throws out there, it doesn't matter who the prime minister is.

In fairness, the US government doesn't always support anything and everything. US presidents in their second term, who no longer care about the votes controlled by the Israel lobby, have a tendency of trying their hand at the peace process with less restraint.
i find it fascinating the cognitive dissonance that a lot of hard right israelis have on the peace process. on the one hand, they will publicly say how it's not natural for jews and arabs to live side by side peacefully and the arabs should find their own place to live, preferably as far from jews as possible. on the other hand, they don't want to give up any land to resolve the conflict. i'm not hopeful that the new government will take a more centrist approach to the palestinian conflict, but maybe this time will be different (yeah right :rolleyes: )

I'm not either - not with this election result, and with Yeir Lapid, leader of this supposedly centrist Yesh Atid, saying (according to Wikipedia): "I do not think that the Arabs want peace, I want to be rid of them and put a tall fence between us and them, to maintain a Jewish majority in the Land of Israel."

But I think we have some cause to be hopeful in the longer run, in the sense that this demographic threat being spelled out to the Israeli general public forms a more inexorable and obviously less bloody way for the Palestinians to gain the bargaining pressure they so desperately need.

You do have to wonder if Israel's impossible political system has anything to do with how long the peace process is dragged out... in a parliament more like the British or American one, would the Arabs and ultra-orthodox both have become active parts of major parties rather than being stuck in small and largely irrelevant parties that do nothing of note except complicating coalition formations and squabbling with each other? And would that have enhanced their integration into Israeli society?
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