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No, I believe they were both mentally incompetent to have guns; that does not mean EVERYONE is. Joel Send a noteboard - 28/12/2012 02:19:51 PM
is actually better, according to you, than a situation where neither of them have guns?

Why must it be all or nothing? Guns for all or guns for none? That really annoys me, because 90% of America rejects BOTH views and always will, but the small radical fringe demanding each makes the others alarmism plausible when both SHOULD be dismissed as absurd. We cannot have effective reasonable gun control because absolutists on both sides dominate the conversation, even though virtually no one supports either.

Gun rights radicals insist all gun control=gun bans, and I cannot dismiss them by saying, "no one wants to ban all guns," because, look, here you are. Gun control radicals insist allowing guns=allowing EVERYONE guns, even criminals and mental patients, and I cannot dismiss them by saying, "no one wants to let criminals and mental patients have guns," because, look, right next to your posts are more from a guy insisting ALL gun control is unconstitutional. Meanwhile, the vast majority disagreeing with BOTH of you is afraid to make ANY changes to the law lest one of the radical fringes dominating the debate do the same with new legislation.

You two are not helping anyone but each other. It is like Bush and Bin Laden: The vast majority in BOTH countries did not want to fight FOR either, but each man easily convinced droves of people to fight AGAINST the other. I mean, you are either with Bush or the terrorists, right? Heaven forbid a third (i.e. rational) option.
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You're actually not right on that one - 21/12/2012 07:49:53 PM 1010 Views
That wasn't the point I was making - 21/12/2012 09:49:40 PM 941 Views
You should probably clarify it then - 21/12/2012 10:47:26 PM 1100 Views
His post was perfectly clear. Yours seemed like a response to an entirely different post. - 21/12/2012 10:53:39 PM 1266 Views
Explain that remark, it is not obvious to me *NM* - 21/12/2012 11:00:10 PM 564 Views
I think - 21/12/2012 11:13:34 PM 935 Views
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I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 10:57:35 PM 960 Views
Re: I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 11:25:04 PM 1015 Views
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you're largely correct, which is why we need stronger laws on ownership not guns per se - 21/12/2012 09:39:14 PM 920 Views
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He is right about Australia - 21/12/2012 10:46:27 PM 946 Views
No kidding - 21/12/2012 10:59:28 PM 947 Views
If you knew all that - 21/12/2012 11:02:38 PM 991 Views
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Does the Second Amendment protect the rights of felons and the mentally incompetent to have guns? - 22/12/2012 02:35:16 AM 1167 Views
Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 03:02:18 AM 876 Views
Re: Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 04:12:30 AM 933 Views
umm... - 22/12/2012 12:41:31 PM 838 Views
1997 North Hollywood Shootout - 22/12/2012 04:07:39 AM 1023 Views
Laws against murder failed to prevent that, too; clearly they are ineffective and should be repealed - 22/12/2012 06:02:24 AM 1071 Views
Such laws were never intended for prevention, they define actions that will be punished. *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:57:57 PM 601 Views
So do laws against getting a gun without screening, training and certification. - 23/12/2012 02:01:32 PM 889 Views
Then CHANGE the Constitution, don't ignore it. *NM* - 26/12/2012 03:12:11 PM 518 Views
I am not suggesting either changing or ignoring the Constitution. - 26/12/2012 04:01:02 PM 1003 Views
Yes you are. - 26/12/2012 08:06:01 PM 825 Views
Learn logic, and stop needlessly trying to teach me grammar. - 26/12/2012 08:55:25 PM 973 Views
Lear to read, and I won't have to - 27/12/2012 04:28:59 PM 1015 Views
You are wrong. - 22/12/2012 12:14:40 PM 971 Views
That explains much; I read somewhere Brits are averse to it. - 22/12/2012 01:17:15 PM 913 Views
We're also averse to being wrong. - 22/12/2012 02:53:49 PM 971 Views
So you say... - 22/12/2012 03:32:16 PM 897 Views
guns r stpid *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:39:30 AM 620 Views
What bemuses me about this thing with Adam Lanza, is that his mother had 5 registered guns - 23/12/2012 07:10:26 AM 969 Views
She was asleep with him in the house. - 23/12/2012 02:24:47 PM 984 Views
LOOK, look, there is another one... - 26/12/2012 03:13:45 PM 902 Views
I find the absolutist ant/pro-gun positions equally dangerous and absurd. - 26/12/2012 04:20:37 PM 903 Views
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Which would be... NONE. *NM* - 27/12/2012 04:31:53 PM 560 Views
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...." - 28/12/2012 05:14:49 PM 880 Views
*see previous grammar lesson* *NM* - 28/12/2012 10:31:43 PM 522 Views
The instant it becomes relevant, I shall. - 28/12/2012 11:45:01 PM 1080 Views
Your point being? - 27/12/2012 10:47:29 AM 869 Views
I am certain it would have been better, though not good, if she had been awake and shot him. - 27/12/2012 02:16:13 PM 982 Views
So the situation of Nancy and Adam shooting at each other - 28/12/2012 07:44:12 AM 987 Views
No, I believe they were both mentally incompetent to have guns; that does not mean EVERYONE is. - 28/12/2012 02:19:51 PM 917 Views
How do you know Nancy Lanza was mentally incompetent? - 29/12/2012 07:06:40 AM 926 Views
Facts are irrelevant when FUD is the order of the day. - 24/12/2012 04:34:18 PM 874 Views
It irritates me too. *NM* - 01/01/2013 01:55:05 PM 546 Views

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