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I took a driving exam when I was 16, and have never been tested since, nor will I ever be. HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 23/12/2012 01:17:05 PM
I will start by saying I agree with you about high capacity magazines and possibly even semi-automatic rifles. I don't think people have any real need for them and I think they should go. But I also think you are wrong by thinking getting rid of these kinds of weapons will prevent any future mass murders. This same attrocity could've easily happened with a shotgun, some pipe bombs, and hand guns.

And really, if its not going to prevent crazies from doing stuff, why make a useless law?


I did not say that we should ban x or y, you read that into my post. I did make the point that such weapons only purpose is to kill and to kill quickly that was as far as I went.

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I am personally for some sort of limit on the amount of capacity guns and especially small guns are capable of using at a time. A gun that can fire 30 rounds in quick succession ceases to be a tool and only becomes a weapon. If you are not military or police you do not need such a thing, and these weapons are being use in a negative way that makes society worse.

I am also for multiple paperwork and other form of requirements to own a gun. For example mandatory background checks. Registration of the guns that you possess. And to receive any new gun or ammunition you must perform a total of 20 hours of gun safety a year or a combination of hours of practice at a gun range to show that your competent and safe with a gun.

We have about 30,000 car deaths each year. We have about 30,000 gun deaths each year in the US (about 55% of these deaths are suicides.) We require registration, certification, and proficiency tests with cars for we recognize their awesome power to create destruction even though cars are such a useful tool for an individual as well as society. I would argue the useful benefit of cars greatly surpasses the usefulness of guns and we have very little regulatory mechanism with the use of guns.


Why have stronger regulation upon firearms than we do for driving an automobile (which is by no means Constitutionally protected)?
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