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That wasn't the point I was making TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 21/12/2012 09:49:40 PM
Hunting rifles may be better at taking down one human at a time, but they aren't as good at taking down a classroom full of 5 year olds and since the sniper-with-a-hunting-rifle problem seems much less relevant than the deranged lunatic walking into a public place and firing as many bullets as possible hunting rifles get more sympathy.

Just a guess, but that might be why.


A person's rifle selection is somewhat purpose based but also has a lot to do with arm-length. I've got the length, for instance, to present an M16A4 at midnight (aim perpendicular to my chest) but most don't and need a carbine for the task. That's only relevant in body armor and those trained without it would feel just as comfortable with a long stock and barrel. For short range a shotgun is always ideal though and that's the standard hunting weapon. If your intent was to leave hunting weapons intact but crack down on those favored by spree killers you'd not succeed, they're effectively identical. People do not hunt with actual sniper rifles much.

Ultimately, with nearly any vaguely modern firearm, time between shots in primarily aiming, so full auto or not is fairly academic.


The reason people (and I'm not one of them, I'd ban them all fwiw) have problems with the AR-15 and semi-automatic pistols like the Glock is because they were designed to fire lots of bullets quickly, something you don't normally associate with good hunting practice. I'm sure you can hunt with an AR-15 or a Bushmaster M4 but that isn't what people are referring to when they talk about 'hunting rifles' that should be allowed, there is a clear difference between the design intent of a semi-automatic weapon like the AR-15 and a gun designed for long range single shot damage. I guess most people don't have a problem with owning a Remington M700 for instance, which is in no way identical to an WASR-10 for the semi-automatic pistols these shooters frequently use.

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When guns are a big national issue, how do reporters & pundits not know facts about them? - 21/12/2012 05:33:14 PM 1651 Views
You don't hunt by walking into a classroom and shooting 20 deer - 21/12/2012 05:56:16 PM 1073 Views
You're actually not right on that one - 21/12/2012 07:49:53 PM 1010 Views
That wasn't the point I was making - 21/12/2012 09:49:40 PM 941 Views
You should probably clarify it then - 21/12/2012 10:47:26 PM 1100 Views
His post was perfectly clear. Yours seemed like a response to an entirely different post. - 21/12/2012 10:53:39 PM 1266 Views
Explain that remark, it is not obvious to me *NM* - 21/12/2012 11:00:10 PM 564 Views
I think - 21/12/2012 11:13:34 PM 935 Views
Thats' easy, there is simply no such thing as a 'hunting rifle' - 21/12/2012 11:17:41 PM 948 Views
I'd say the expert gunsmith - 21/12/2012 11:28:02 PM 1000 Views
I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 10:57:35 PM 960 Views
Re: I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 11:25:04 PM 1015 Views
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Re: Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 04:12:30 AM 933 Views
umm... - 22/12/2012 12:41:31 PM 838 Views
1997 North Hollywood Shootout - 22/12/2012 04:07:39 AM 1023 Views
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Lear to read, and I won't have to - 27/12/2012 04:28:59 PM 1015 Views
You are wrong. - 22/12/2012 12:14:40 PM 971 Views
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guns r stpid *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:39:30 AM 620 Views
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*see previous grammar lesson* *NM* - 28/12/2012 10:31:43 PM 522 Views
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Your point being? - 27/12/2012 10:47:29 AM 869 Views
Facts are irrelevant when FUD is the order of the day. - 24/12/2012 04:34:18 PM 874 Views
It irritates me too. *NM* - 01/01/2013 01:55:05 PM 546 Views

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