The gun law situation here in the U.S. is an outright joke.
callandor1000 Send a noteboard - 21/12/2012 01:15:50 PM
Despite our words, our actions dictate wanting an end to any semblance of peace, security, safety and health of our nation. Allowing people to carry concealed firearms is outright inviting firearm misuse. It has been clear the last decade that our country is slipping away from being able to call itself civilized but laws like these really hammer the reality home.
I personally am for strict gun laws. I think handguns should be banned from all but law enforcement and military. They serve as nothing but human slayers. Someone outside of those capacities simply doesn't need one. Protection? Get a shot gun or rifle. Those serve a dual purpose, you can hunt. But, I am also not so delusional as most Americans and I fully understand that I could perhaps be wrong. Though I can argue against handguns all day long. What I can not understand is how concealing a firearm is in anyway safe or ideal?
Let me take another scenario of a similar situation/issue. The acceptable practice (and laws essentially uphold this at this point) is that you can't do anything to physically stop shoplifters. You have to have without a doubt evidence to even convict them at this point and if you touch them or anything you're in general open to lawsuits and so on and so forth. So the acceptable practice is annoying the fuck out of potential shoplifters. Offer good service. Talk to them. And if you're positive but have no proof, essentially watch them and make it none. In short, do everything you can to DETER them from stealing. Don't sneak around and watch them then hope to catch them AFTER something happens. Keep it from happening.
My point in illustrating this is concealing the weapon does nothing but foster fear of one's fellow citizens instead of DETERRING violence. The only way it DETERS violence is in everyone fearing that everyone else has a firearm they can't see. That is/would be/will be a dangerous and frightening society to live in. If you were allowed to carry but did so openly it would be far more effective in DETERRING violence. I realize even in this argument there are conundrums that can negate the logic but there are conundrums in every side or argument associated with gun laws. For me, I personally would like to think that we as a nation and society have become civilized enough that we don't have to fear our fellow citizens, that at the end of the day we are intelligent enough (and we currently are far, far from it in this short bus riding nation) to see that concealing firearms only fosters fear in our fellow citizens.
P.S.- I left out things about our constitutional rights, so I'll address my thought on that. Concealing weapons a. isn't part of it b. handguns serve no purpose for it. If anyone truly thinks that having handguns and concealing handguns in this day and age (with the weapons and capabilities our military has) protects you against your own country then you're as delusional as someone thinking that if a squirrel fucks a salmon they'd make a baby turducken.
I personally am for strict gun laws. I think handguns should be banned from all but law enforcement and military. They serve as nothing but human slayers. Someone outside of those capacities simply doesn't need one. Protection? Get a shot gun or rifle. Those serve a dual purpose, you can hunt. But, I am also not so delusional as most Americans and I fully understand that I could perhaps be wrong. Though I can argue against handguns all day long. What I can not understand is how concealing a firearm is in anyway safe or ideal?
Let me take another scenario of a similar situation/issue. The acceptable practice (and laws essentially uphold this at this point) is that you can't do anything to physically stop shoplifters. You have to have without a doubt evidence to even convict them at this point and if you touch them or anything you're in general open to lawsuits and so on and so forth. So the acceptable practice is annoying the fuck out of potential shoplifters. Offer good service. Talk to them. And if you're positive but have no proof, essentially watch them and make it none. In short, do everything you can to DETER them from stealing. Don't sneak around and watch them then hope to catch them AFTER something happens. Keep it from happening.
My point in illustrating this is concealing the weapon does nothing but foster fear of one's fellow citizens instead of DETERRING violence. The only way it DETERS violence is in everyone fearing that everyone else has a firearm they can't see. That is/would be/will be a dangerous and frightening society to live in. If you were allowed to carry but did so openly it would be far more effective in DETERRING violence. I realize even in this argument there are conundrums that can negate the logic but there are conundrums in every side or argument associated with gun laws. For me, I personally would like to think that we as a nation and society have become civilized enough that we don't have to fear our fellow citizens, that at the end of the day we are intelligent enough (and we currently are far, far from it in this short bus riding nation) to see that concealing firearms only fosters fear in our fellow citizens.
P.S.- I left out things about our constitutional rights, so I'll address my thought on that. Concealing weapons a. isn't part of it b. handguns serve no purpose for it. If anyone truly thinks that having handguns and concealing handguns in this day and age (with the weapons and capabilities our military has) protects you against your own country then you're as delusional as someone thinking that if a squirrel fucks a salmon they'd make a baby turducken.
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This message last edited by callandor1000 on 21/12/2012 at 01:18:01 PM
Just a reminder everyone
20/12/2012 02:28:25 AM
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Didn't know that, glad to hear it
20/12/2012 03:16:26 AM
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You see in my case it wouldn't be murder though
20/12/2012 03:24:31 AM
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Well, if I absorb your meaning that parallels what I call 'Expedited Divorce Proceedings'
20/12/2012 06:00:11 AM
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I prefer to call them "Non-parental, Post-100th Trimester Abortions." *NM*
21/12/2012 06:44:06 AM
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Re: I prefer to call them "Non-parental, Post-100th Trimester Abortions."
21/12/2012 11:27:43 PM
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People wouldn't have known any of that anyways
20/12/2012 05:25:26 AM
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Re: People wouldn't have known any of that anyways
21/12/2012 01:20:12 PM
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Re: People wouldn't have known any of that anyways
21/12/2012 05:43:57 PM
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Re: People wouldn't have known any of that anyways
21/12/2012 09:15:49 PM
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But I've read your other posts and there is dissonance in them
21/12/2012 10:21:15 PM
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Re: But I've read your other posts and there is dissonance in them
24/12/2012 04:13:59 AM
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I always respect someone who admits to being philosophically inconsistent
24/12/2012 04:35:02 AM
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The gun law situation here in the U.S. is an outright joke.
21/12/2012 01:15:50 PM
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sorry you're having a bad day but you sound like *exactly* the person who should be barred from guns
21/12/2012 02:52:36 PM
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Wikipedia says it is not legal in DC, and IL must write a law dealing with it.
22/12/2012 12:13:45 AM
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