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One need not be living to be famous. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM
there are very few examples of these shooters who have stayed alive after their rampage, for the express purpose of telling their stories to the media. anders breivik is the only one in recent memory, because he had a clear agenda he thought he was fulfilling and he relished the media attention to his manifesto. everyone else have just been people who snapped and had a gun (or two or more) at hand to allow themselves to have such a deadly legacy.

By your logic the so-called 27 Club would not exist. Doing what they do as they do it ensures lasting infamy but (they believe/hope) spares them lasting consequences.
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20 children killed in latest US school shooting moondog - 15/12/2012 12:35:42 AM 933 Views
i know 2 people with kids there, one of them has lost their 5 year old. this is too close to home Aisha - 15/12/2012 12:39:26 AM 557 Views
*NM* Orange - 16/12/2012 07:16:19 AM 265 Views
It is absolutely terrible. Tom - 15/12/2012 01:51:38 AM 589 Views
I think you're largely right. Ghavrel - 15/12/2012 03:48:59 AM 547 Views
I agree. Dannymac - 15/12/2012 04:46:45 AM 588 Views
Re: It is absolutely terrible. Avendesora - 15/12/2012 12:49:34 PM 509 Views
I do think you're right on this TheCrownless - 15/12/2012 02:24:43 PM 552 Views
whoop Hieshyn - 15/12/2012 04:35:01 AM 701 Views
So horrible. MonCul - 15/12/2012 05:53:46 AM 473 Views
I lived 20 mins from there. I'm shocked. I'm even heading back there in 4 days.... Fox and Ravens - 15/12/2012 02:08:28 PM 509 Views
one of the big problems with "wait for a better day" moondog - 15/12/2012 03:45:53 PM 491 Views
Re: one of the big problems with "wait for a better day" Fox and Ravens - 15/12/2012 06:53:51 PM 676 Views
Maybe when we stop making media celebrities out of these murderers.. Amyrlin - 16/12/2012 05:36:19 PM 503 Views
Nope, won't happen. Tom - 16/12/2012 06:37:11 PM 599 Views
For each of those 30 years sociologists have warned of the growing danger of growing alienation. Joel - 16/12/2012 10:05:28 PM 574 Views
I don't know what you mean, though. Tom - 17/12/2012 05:53:44 PM 529 Views
I dunno, your response suggests you figured it out pretty quickly. Joel - 18/12/2012 05:08:12 PM 590 Views
Well, I more or less agree with everything you said *NM* Tom - 19/12/2012 01:23:26 AM 236 Views
Short form: The common phrases "suicide by cop" and "going postal" did not exist a generation ago. Joel - 18/12/2012 09:14:51 PM 544 Views
Reducing people to economics is a terrible thing. Tom - 19/12/2012 01:28:54 AM 491 Views
if they were after fame, they would probably all have tried to stay alive after killing everyone moondog - 16/12/2012 10:01:50 PM 484 Views
One need not be living to be famous. Joel - 16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM 526 Views
actually, i'm pretty sure you're wrong on this moondog - 17/12/2012 05:38:07 PM 504 Views
"Live fast, die young and leave a good-looking corpse," "it's better to burn out than fade away" etc Joel - 18/12/2012 03:25:23 PM 628 Views
what do your examples all have in common? moondog - 18/12/2012 08:42:59 PM 539 Views
I frequently confuse that detail of Hinckleys shooting with Chapmans, sorry. Joel - 18/12/2012 08:59:25 PM 599 Views
you are going to have to define "many" moondog - 18/12/2012 10:13:33 PM 539 Views
Well, it is a relative term, and not an all-encompassing one. Joel - 26/12/2012 07:04:25 PM 583 Views
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Chapman wasn't a mass murderer, though. Neither was Hinckley. Tom - 20/12/2012 05:15:23 AM 489 Views
True, but it does demonstrate how easily and frequently notoriety motivates shootings. Joel - 26/12/2012 07:22:37 PM 536 Views
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