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Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
Think back to the time period when military integration was first instituted. There were some really serious, legitimate concerns that problems might occur: violence, a lack of cohesion, things of that nature. With women aboard ships, you deal with similar fears (rape is sexual violence, and the personal dynamics are the other big issue).

The main difference is that with racial segregation, there was a hope that the antagonism would begin to phase out after a while. But remember, at the time it was only a hope, not a guarantee.

I agree with Celia on this issue 100%. It might not work, but it's certainly worth investigating further. (By the way, are there other countries that have already implemented such a policy?)
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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"Military may lift ban on women in submarines" (Reuters) Burr - 28/09/2009 08:26:30 PM 798 Views
gives new meaning to the old joke.... moondog - 28/09/2009 09:47:36 PM 500 Views
Ahahahahaha! *NM* Rebekah - 28/09/2009 10:02:01 PM 231 Views
my favorite joke from Navy basic training (mature readers only, poorly veiled sexual reference) imlad - 28/09/2009 10:06:51 PM 586 Views
As I understand it, there are very good reasons why they don't let women on submarines. Tim - 28/09/2009 09:50:39 PM 571 Views
frankly i get along better with women who are menstruating with me. LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:26:05 PM 524 Views
Like I said, it's possible pills will solve the problem. *NM* Tim - 29/09/2009 09:20:42 AM 256 Views
I agree. The idea is not a good one for many obvious reasons. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:38:08 AM 511 Views
seems like a strange choice to me random thoughts - 28/09/2009 10:26:24 PM 549 Views
if you can't keep it zipped LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:35:35 PM 537 Views
Correct and yet it happens all too frequently already. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:43:15 AM 510 Views
In my mind, that's a pretty pathetic arguement. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:02:31 AM 576 Views
WHOA! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:14:27 AM 488 Views
Dude I know!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:20:27 AM 475 Views
Hehehe, we could "name the show". Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:26:11 AM 480 Views
XD Or even better!!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:40:50 AM 520 Views
ROFL! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:47:07 AM 461 Views
Really the possibilities are endless. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:34 AM 493 Views
Indeed. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 02:46:31 AM 465 Views
Your comparison to segregation is idiotic. I won't even give such a stupid claim a second thought. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 01:44:46 AM 224 Views
I love how you disregard my entire arguement based on that one factor LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:09 AM 528 Views
It is an irresponsible comparison. Even in your response to my comment you can't make it work. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:39:48 PM 218 Views
Actually I could see her point. She was thinking along a different line than you thought she was. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:57:17 AM 255 Views
It's not idiotic at all. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:21:49 AM 512 Views
Sweden has women on subs, as do (at least) Norway, Germany, Australia and Canada *NM* Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:38:43 AM 247 Views
Just wondering.. AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:42:22 PM 518 Views
well since all of those countries use diesel/electric subs I would no they don't stay out as long random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:10:34 PM 496 Views
There's also the fact that none of those countries have nuclear weapons Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:14:48 PM 516 Views
As for Sweden, that sounds about right Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:12:29 PM 467 Views
Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 242 Views
~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:54:03 AM 601 Views
By that same token, should women also be banned from long business trips? *NM* Burr - 29/09/2009 03:23:22 AM 239 Views
only the ones who don't charge for their services? *NM* moondog - 29/09/2009 03:36:03 AM 259 Views
Haha!! Touche! I concede that point. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 11:59:33 PM 222 Views
Re: ~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Jedi Wolf Sister - 29/09/2009 03:23:31 AM 497 Views
It might be true in some situations, but it's a weak argument against this issue. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:15:47 AM 522 Views
subs are really really cramped. Ever heard the phrase hot racking? random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:23:33 PM 604 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:59:13 PM 294 Views
"The military is instrument of war not social engineering." Excelent point. *NM* Jedi Wolf Sister - 30/09/2009 12:34:28 AM 317 Views
oh please will people stop the “it worked with segregation argument” random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:01:48 PM 493 Views
keep in zipped is such a bad argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 02:51:45 PM 556 Views
A submariner's perspective Beqi - 29/09/2009 08:30:45 AM 544 Views
That was not Beqi but Grimbear. I was signed in but it still credited the post to her. GRRR! *NM* Grimbear - 29/09/2009 08:32:21 AM 333 Views
Interesting. Lupine - 29/09/2009 09:55:11 AM 555 Views
a rack is just the name for a bed random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:30:05 PM 498 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:57:10 PM 545 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:46:12 PM 689 Views
It is amazing what you can get used to random thoughts - 29/09/2009 06:03:05 PM 502 Views
Re: Interesting. Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:42:54 PM 594 Views
See, that's a good reason. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:29:32 PM 514 Views
before you knock the return to high school argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:39:47 PM 461 Views
which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 12:08:46 AM 524 Views
Re: which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:12:05 AM 481 Views
You have to cut with the grain. random thoughts - 30/09/2009 03:05:29 PM 420 Views
Re: before you knock the return to high school argument Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:10:35 AM 528 Views
It is a strange mix random thoughts - 30/09/2009 02:56:21 PM 407 Views
Thank you for talking some sense. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:46:33 PM 326 Views
Thank you for taking the time to answer. Well done. *NM* Tashmere - 30/09/2009 12:07:49 AM 220 Views
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