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Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
Think back to the time period when military integration was first instituted. There were some really serious, legitimate concerns that problems might occur: violence, a lack of cohesion, things of that nature. With women aboard ships, you deal with similar fears (rape is sexual violence, and the personal dynamics are the other big issue).

The main difference is that with racial segregation, there was a hope that the antagonism would begin to phase out after a while. But remember, at the time it was only a hope, not a guarantee.

I agree with Celia on this issue 100%. It might not work, but it's certainly worth investigating further. (By the way, are there other countries that have already implemented such a policy?)
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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"Military may lift ban on women in submarines" (Reuters) Burr - 28/09/2009 08:26:30 PM 734 Views
gives new meaning to the old joke.... moondog - 28/09/2009 09:47:36 PM 465 Views
Ahahahahaha! *NM* Rebekah - 28/09/2009 10:02:01 PM 206 Views
my favorite joke from Navy basic training (mature readers only, poorly veiled sexual reference) imlad - 28/09/2009 10:06:51 PM 519 Views
As I understand it, there are very good reasons why they don't let women on submarines. Tim - 28/09/2009 09:50:39 PM 496 Views
frankly i get along better with women who are menstruating with me. LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:26:05 PM 461 Views
Like I said, it's possible pills will solve the problem. *NM* Tim - 29/09/2009 09:20:42 AM 230 Views
I agree. The idea is not a good one for many obvious reasons. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:38:08 AM 443 Views
seems like a strange choice to me random thoughts - 28/09/2009 10:26:24 PM 482 Views
if you can't keep it zipped LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:35:35 PM 472 Views
Correct and yet it happens all too frequently already. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:43:15 AM 447 Views
In my mind, that's a pretty pathetic arguement. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:02:31 AM 506 Views
WHOA! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:14:27 AM 430 Views
Dude I know!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:20:27 AM 417 Views
Hehehe, we could "name the show". Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:26:11 AM 413 Views
XD Or even better!!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:40:50 AM 463 Views
ROFL! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:47:07 AM 400 Views
Really the possibilities are endless. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:34 AM 429 Views
Indeed. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 02:46:31 AM 400 Views
Your comparison to segregation is idiotic. I won't even give such a stupid claim a second thought. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 01:44:46 AM 198 Views
I love how you disregard my entire arguement based on that one factor LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:09 AM 446 Views
It is an irresponsible comparison. Even in your response to my comment you can't make it work. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:39:48 PM 191 Views
Actually I could see her point. She was thinking along a different line than you thought she was. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:57:17 AM 236 Views
It's not idiotic at all. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:21:49 AM 444 Views
Sweden has women on subs, as do (at least) Norway, Germany, Australia and Canada *NM* Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:38:43 AM 223 Views
Just wondering.. AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:42:22 PM 454 Views
well since all of those countries use diesel/electric subs I would no they don't stay out as long random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:10:34 PM 430 Views
There's also the fact that none of those countries have nuclear weapons Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:14:48 PM 458 Views
As for Sweden, that sounds about right Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:12:29 PM 400 Views
Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 223 Views
~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:54:03 AM 539 Views
By that same token, should women also be banned from long business trips? *NM* Burr - 29/09/2009 03:23:22 AM 211 Views
only the ones who don't charge for their services? *NM* moondog - 29/09/2009 03:36:03 AM 232 Views
Haha!! Touche! I concede that point. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 11:59:33 PM 203 Views
Re: ~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Jedi Wolf Sister - 29/09/2009 03:23:31 AM 436 Views
It might be true in some situations, but it's a weak argument against this issue. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:15:47 AM 462 Views
subs are really really cramped. Ever heard the phrase hot racking? random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:23:33 PM 540 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:59:13 PM 269 Views
"The military is instrument of war not social engineering." Excelent point. *NM* Jedi Wolf Sister - 30/09/2009 12:34:28 AM 295 Views
oh please will people stop the “it worked with segregation argument” random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:01:48 PM 428 Views
keep in zipped is such a bad argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 02:51:45 PM 488 Views
A submariner's perspective Beqi - 29/09/2009 08:30:45 AM 471 Views
That was not Beqi but Grimbear. I was signed in but it still credited the post to her. GRRR! *NM* Grimbear - 29/09/2009 08:32:21 AM 309 Views
Interesting. Lupine - 29/09/2009 09:55:11 AM 487 Views
a rack is just the name for a bed random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:30:05 PM 430 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:57:10 PM 471 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:46:12 PM 624 Views
It is amazing what you can get used to random thoughts - 29/09/2009 06:03:05 PM 439 Views
Re: Interesting. Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:42:54 PM 538 Views
See, that's a good reason. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:29:32 PM 451 Views
before you knock the return to high school argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:39:47 PM 399 Views
which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 12:08:46 AM 462 Views
Re: which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:12:05 AM 420 Views
You have to cut with the grain. random thoughts - 30/09/2009 03:05:29 PM 359 Views
Re: before you knock the return to high school argument Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:10:35 AM 464 Views
It is a strange mix random thoughts - 30/09/2009 02:56:21 PM 348 Views
Thank you for talking some sense. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:46:33 PM 301 Views
Thank you for taking the time to answer. Well done. *NM* Tashmere - 30/09/2009 12:07:49 AM 193 Views
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