Intentional abortion to save the life of the mother is performed in about 0.004% of all abortions (151 instances between 1967 & 1990).
Death of the mother during an abortion procedure occurs in approximaely 0.3% of all abortions.
In other words, dying because you had an abortion performed on you is about 1,000 times more likely than dying because one was NOT performed.
Regardless, both occurances are HIGHLY unlikely and should not be the basis for any discussion beyond "Damn, what a shame that happened to her."
Death of the mother during an abortion procedure occurs in approximaely 0.3% of all abortions.
In other words, dying because you had an abortion performed on you is about 1,000 times more likely than dying because one was NOT performed.
Regardless, both occurances are HIGHLY unlikely and should not be the basis for any discussion beyond "Damn, what a shame that happened to her."
Because to be honest are you really suggesting 3 in 1000 people die after having proper (in the medical sense, i.e not backstreet) abortions? Because I can show you a study published in February of this year in Obstetrics and Gynecology which puts that figure at 0.6 in every 100,000 (or 0.0006%).
All this without going into your flawed logic. I'm sure you can make the same argument with chemotherapy or some other procedure, yes you're more likely to die if you have chemotherapy than if you don't, however if you have cancer then those odds mean nothing to you.
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This message last edited by TheCrownless on 15/11/2012 at 09:47:04 PM
woman dies after doctors deny her a life-saving abortion
14/11/2012 06:58:31 PM
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this is so terribly sad. keeping abortions legal is important. *NM*
14/11/2012 07:09:00 PM
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Well, I guess to expedite the process of argument and counter-argument, I'll post an article an
14/11/2012 07:28:01 PM
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you're right, i should have posted the actual article instead of an editorial. thanks!
14/11/2012 08:14:42 PM
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so terrible... i will never understand how this crap is considered "pro-life." *NM*
15/11/2012 01:15:56 AM
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Maybe this is more a testament to the quality of care in that hospital than an arguemnt for abortion *NM*
15/11/2012 01:49:00 PM
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Can you elaborate?
16/11/2012 04:07:48 PM
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Do you have access to her medical charts?
16/11/2012 08:44:45 PM
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The infection was from the fetus inside of her. That is not disputed.
16/11/2012 10:14:52 PM
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This wasn't pro-life, but more a case of anti-thinking
15/11/2012 06:28:55 PM
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but the pro-life (or anti-abortion) argument was the reason they gave for not allowing an abortion
15/11/2012 10:00:14 PM
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Once you know for certain that the mother is dying, it is too late.
16/11/2012 04:11:25 PM
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Statistically speaking...
15/11/2012 07:03:51 PM
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Where did you get your statistics from?
15/11/2012 09:19:29 PM
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Psst.
15/11/2012 09:43:35 PM
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Re: Statistically speaking...
15/11/2012 10:56:35 PM
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Where's the due process?
15/11/2012 11:35:39 PM
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First, prove that the fetus is a "ONE".
16/11/2012 04:14:34 PM
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That argument is specious
16/11/2012 08:36:07 PM
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But you cannot call another living person an "environment." Only for parasites.
16/11/2012 10:16:18 PM
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Yes I can, look up the word environment
17/11/2012 11:49:55 AM
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Win some, lose some
15/11/2012 11:29:32 PM
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Some facts for you - from the article Stephen linked in his reply above, and from general knowledge.
16/11/2012 09:38:32 PM
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That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
17/11/2012 07:06:58 PM
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Wow.
17/11/2012 07:28:23 PM
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Nah, I don't *try* to insult anyone (most of the time) , though I seem to do so fairly regularly. *NM*
18/11/2012 07:41:43 PM
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Re: That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
17/11/2012 08:07:19 PM
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Nice decision to turn to insults. Print out your post and let it join your head, up your ass.
18/11/2012 07:50:18 PM
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The difference between Ireland and the UK is about 0.006%
17/11/2012 08:31:45 PM
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It illustrates that the "life of the mother" argument is rare to the point of irrelevance. *NM*
18/11/2012 07:45:36 PM
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And yet this case makes it irrefutably relevant. *NM*
20/11/2012 05:18:23 PM
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No, it really does not. Because the situation is so rare as to not be worth even discussing...
21/11/2012 03:24:01 PM
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In your opinion - in mine, and I suspect others here, it is not.
22/11/2012 12:03:20 AM
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I am not debating opinion, you can't debate opinion, I am trying to point out facts.
22/11/2012 05:29:24 PM
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