This wasn't pro-life, but more a case of anti-thinking
Jeordam Send a noteboard - 15/11/2012 06:28:55 PM
Those of you who know me well, know that I am pro-life. This is not a "preserve the life of the baby" type of situation. This is a preserve the life of the mother situation. She was 17 weeks along. She was not going to be able to carry anywhere near term. Let's understand this. The baby was going to die either way....either through waiting or through the abortion procedure.
Instead, the mother's life was at immediate & distinct danger. Of course, in situations such as this, the child's life would have to be sacrified to save that of the mother. This is not an example of "pro-life" decision making.
I'm not against abortion in the case of the mother's life being in jeopardy. Why have both of them die instead of just one? But just to state it, for every one of these types of instances, how many are elective procedures? You don't set rules according to the most rare of instnaces. You set rules based on the majority, and make allowances for the exceptions.
~Jeordam
Instead, the mother's life was at immediate & distinct danger. Of course, in situations such as this, the child's life would have to be sacrified to save that of the mother. This is not an example of "pro-life" decision making.
I'm not against abortion in the case of the mother's life being in jeopardy. Why have both of them die instead of just one? But just to state it, for every one of these types of instances, how many are elective procedures? You don't set rules according to the most rare of instnaces. You set rules based on the majority, and make allowances for the exceptions.
~Jeordam
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woman dies after doctors deny her a life-saving abortion
- 14/11/2012 06:58:31 PM
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this is so terribly sad. keeping abortions legal is important. *NM*
- 14/11/2012 07:09:00 PM
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Well, I guess to expedite the process of argument and counter-argument, I'll post an article an
- 14/11/2012 07:28:01 PM
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you're right, i should have posted the actual article instead of an editorial. thanks!
- 14/11/2012 08:14:42 PM
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so terrible... i will never understand how this crap is considered "pro-life." *NM*
- 15/11/2012 01:15:56 AM
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Maybe this is more a testament to the quality of care in that hospital than an arguemnt for abortion *NM*
- 15/11/2012 01:49:00 PM
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Can you elaborate?
- 16/11/2012 04:07:48 PM
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Do you have access to her medical charts?
- 16/11/2012 08:44:45 PM
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The infection was from the fetus inside of her. That is not disputed.
- 16/11/2012 10:14:52 PM
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This wasn't pro-life, but more a case of anti-thinking
- 15/11/2012 06:28:55 PM
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but the pro-life (or anti-abortion) argument was the reason they gave for not allowing an abortion
- 15/11/2012 10:00:14 PM
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Once you know for certain that the mother is dying, it is too late.
- 16/11/2012 04:11:25 PM
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Statistically speaking...
- 15/11/2012 07:03:51 PM
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Psst.
- 15/11/2012 09:43:35 PM
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Re: Statistically speaking...
- 15/11/2012 10:56:35 PM
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Where's the due process?
- 15/11/2012 11:35:39 PM
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First, prove that the fetus is a "ONE".
- 16/11/2012 04:14:34 PM
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That argument is specious
- 16/11/2012 08:36:07 PM
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But you cannot call another living person an "environment." Only for parasites.
- 16/11/2012 10:16:18 PM
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Yes I can, look up the word environment
- 17/11/2012 11:49:55 AM
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Win some, lose some
- 15/11/2012 11:29:32 PM
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Some facts for you - from the article Stephen linked in his reply above, and from general knowledge.
- 16/11/2012 09:38:32 PM
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That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
- 17/11/2012 07:06:58 PM
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Wow.
- 17/11/2012 07:28:23 PM
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Nah, I don't *try* to insult anyone (most of the time) , though I seem to do so fairly regularly. *NM*
- 18/11/2012 07:41:43 PM
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Re: That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
- 17/11/2012 08:07:19 PM
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Nice decision to turn to insults. Print out your post and let it join your head, up your ass.
- 18/11/2012 07:50:18 PM
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The difference between Ireland and the UK is about 0.006%
- 17/11/2012 08:31:45 PM
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It illustrates that the "life of the mother" argument is rare to the point of irrelevance. *NM*
- 18/11/2012 07:45:36 PM
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And yet this case makes it irrefutably relevant. *NM*
- 20/11/2012 05:18:23 PM
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No, it really does not. Because the situation is so rare as to not be worth even discussing...
- 21/11/2012 03:24:01 PM
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In your opinion - in mine, and I suspect others here, it is not.
- 22/11/2012 12:03:20 AM
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I am not debating opinion, you can't debate opinion, I am trying to point out facts.
- 22/11/2012 05:29:24 PM
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