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i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy moondog Send a noteboard - 11/11/2012 02:01:31 PM
Actually I can think of more than one person here who knows the GOP's inner workings better than Tom, starting with myself, what with being a party official and all. And not living in NY state. Tom's smart and knows his stuff but he wouldn't make that claim and I've no idea what you base it off of. We all know what happened this time perfectly well, we relied on a lot of Obama's people not showing from 2008 and more of ours showing, as best as I can tell, in Ohio anyway, we actually ran a better ground game too, his worked in the end, ours didn't, in all probability it was just took less effort per voter for them then for us and they had a bigger pool. Sort of like 2004 in reverse, not a 2008 or a 1984 re-election.


i'm wondering how you reconciled the number of websites predicting obama wins across the swing states with your own view of the race as it happened. obviously we know at this point that nate silver pretty much predicted the electoral map for every state, including every senate race but heitkamp/berg. but there were other sites like huffington post, talking points memo, electoral-vote.com and others which had obama up with relatively comfortable margins. as i said in another comment to you, the margin of victory in most states would suggest the opposite of a close race but it seems like the GOP was pretty blindsided by how badly romney was doing.
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What next for Romney and the Republican party? TheCrownless - 07/11/2012 03:51:50 PM 992 Views
In my view, more moderation is needed. Nate - 07/11/2012 04:17:05 PM 522 Views
Pretty sure seniors are growing MORE numerous, not less. You're probably right about the rest. *NM* Aemon - 07/11/2012 05:03:17 PM 512 Views
That's true, but I don't think that's the right way to look at it. Nate - 07/11/2012 05:18:52 PM 537 Views
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with the overall point. Aemon - 07/11/2012 07:52:33 PM 766 Views
Yes, I see what you mean. Nate - 07/11/2012 07:56:05 PM 466 Views
Libertarian is the way to go IMO. Orange - 07/11/2012 05:19:29 PM 473 Views
totally agree, i was quite disappointed Johnson didn't get better results *NM* wolfsister - 07/11/2012 06:15:09 PM 285 Views
Not yet. nossy - 07/11/2012 06:55:19 PM 625 Views
I am no expert, but I think Romney is done. nossy - 07/11/2012 07:00:33 PM 599 Views
I'd say they're pretty much done ßelals Girl - 07/11/2012 07:54:44 PM 487 Views
I'm not sure about that. Nate - 07/11/2012 08:04:33 PM 616 Views
Again, the numbers you cited will continue to shrink every year. ßelals Girl - 07/11/2012 08:25:21 PM 993 Views
They're through. They've been utterly crushed, demolished, and annihilated after last night. Praziquantel - 07/11/2012 10:34:47 PM 565 Views
Well Romney is retiring but no the GOP is hardly 'done' Isaac - 08/11/2012 12:51:44 AM 454 Views
I do hope the Republican party have the same lax attitude, I love seeing them lose *NM* TheCrownless - 08/11/2012 12:46:32 PM 228 Views
I imagine lots of idiots feel the same way on both sides about both parties *NM* Isaac - 08/11/2012 11:05:29 PM 250 Views
If you're relying on the democrats crashing and burning TheCrownless - 09/11/2012 02:45:41 PM 509 Views
the dems played the "wait for the repubs to crash and burn" strategy and it worked out ok this year moondog - 09/11/2012 05:01:53 PM 563 Views
Off topic, but is your Shift key broken? Macharius - 09/11/2012 05:47:12 PM 469 Views
I don't think I've ever seen him use capitalization. *NM* Stephen - 09/11/2012 07:00:26 PM 390 Views
do you have similar problems when talking to people with weird hair color or clothes IRL? moondog - 09/11/2012 07:09:24 PM 438 Views
I think he was asking why you do it *NM* TheCrownless - 09/11/2012 07:15:27 PM 233 Views
The Dems learned their lesson from the Gore campaign TheCrownless - 09/11/2012 06:25:23 PM 548 Views
i beg to differ moondog - 09/11/2012 07:22:40 PM 418 Views
The facts speak for themselves TheCrownless - 09/11/2012 07:46:20 PM 582 Views
Re: The facts speak for themselves Isaac - 11/11/2012 01:13:05 AM 541 Views
i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy moondog - 11/11/2012 02:01:31 PM 460 Views
Re: i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy Isaac - 11/11/2012 05:48:09 PM 721 Views
I've also got a question for you snoopcester - 11/11/2012 02:16:07 PM 440 Views
Re: I've also got a question for you Isaac - 11/11/2012 04:51:55 PM 484 Views
Re: I've also got a question for you snoopcester - 11/11/2012 05:48:52 PM 584 Views
There's also the fake or exaggeration aspect that might be in play but I can't judge that Isaac - 11/11/2012 06:44:16 PM 944 Views
I think you were taking that statement rather literally TheCrownless - 11/11/2012 07:36:14 PM 492 Views
I took it as a literal statement, the language implied as much to me... Isaac - 11/11/2012 08:45:16 PM 567 Views
Oh, I can absolutely count on them crahsing and burning, that's a given, happens to both regularly *NM* Isaac - 09/11/2012 06:28:51 PM 270 Views
You can't count on exploiting that TheCrownless - 09/11/2012 06:39:47 PM 599 Views
'Mistakes' is subjective, sometimes you have to play your hand Isaac - 11/11/2012 01:09:31 AM 470 Views
i think you've hit on a major point here moondog - 11/11/2012 02:08:50 PM 523 Views
It's a matter of perspective Isaac - 11/11/2012 05:19:13 PM 628 Views
how are 300+ EVs "the skin of his teeth"? moondog - 08/11/2012 05:46:51 PM 483 Views
Because he barely won them? *NM* Isaac - 08/11/2012 11:06:14 PM 214 Views
only OH, NC and FL are within 2% margin, i'd hardly call that "barely won" moondog - 08/11/2012 11:25:54 PM 492 Views
Which is less than Bush 2, Clinton, Reagan, or Nixon? Isaac - 09/11/2012 12:26:51 AM 450 Views
i never claimed a death knell for the GOP moondog - 09/11/2012 12:32:00 AM 541 Views
What makes you think Hillary won't be running? Legolas - 08/11/2012 06:07:38 PM 463 Views
I won't totally rule it out but I don't see it in the cards Isaac - 08/11/2012 11:08:12 PM 450 Views
hillary has stated time and again she is done when she steps down as sec'y of state moondog - 08/11/2012 11:27:56 PM 430 Views
While I agree with the overall point that the Republican party isn't done by any means snoopcester - 08/11/2012 11:53:12 PM 392 Views
Romney is done; the last defeated nominee to be renominated was Nixon. Joel - 08/11/2012 04:53:52 PM 659 Views
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