What next for Romney and the Republican party?
TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 07/11/2012 03:51:50 PM
The results are in and show Obama has won another term, but is it all over for Romney and where do the GOP go from here?
I've seen some comments from GOP supporters that they should have put forward a "proper" conservative, given the changing demographics of America is that really wise? For the first time the white vote has dipped below 75% and the latino and black votes went up.
Does Romney have some future here if he can be the bipartisan focus to rally around the Republican party and support Obama in helping America regain it's footing? His speech was indicating that's the way he actually felt (something that would have won him votes if he wasn't attached to the more unpleasant aspects of the GOP) It's clear it needs to start appealing to more demographics than the older white male because it just doesn't win you elections. If the Republican party support Obama (who has shown his popularity isn't going anywhere) then one way or another they're going to be able to say "look, we were supportive of what the people want but it hasn't worked, give us a chance to do it our way" or if it all goes well they can say they played their part in the recovery and shown themselves capable of governing.
A divided America doesn't suit the Republican party because their core is getting smaller while the Democrats are getting easy votes from minority and misrepresented groups. If they keep road blocking the party the people have elected then this is only going to get worse.
Is it time for them to move away from the grossly unpopular social policies such as pro-life and anti-gay marriage (and accept that politically the only option is to give people a choice on how to live their lives) while trying to provide a political and financial alternative? There are very few Republicans who would refuse to vote for the GOP if they agreed to legalise gay marriage but I'm guessing there are a hell of a lot of gay people who will refuse to vote Republican despite agreeing with their fiscal policy.
I'm interested on opinions from both sides, what do you think the Republican party should do now (both on a personal view and what you think would be "best" politically)? If a more moderate party is in order is Romney the man to do that work or is he too toxic now?
I've seen some comments from GOP supporters that they should have put forward a "proper" conservative, given the changing demographics of America is that really wise? For the first time the white vote has dipped below 75% and the latino and black votes went up.
Does Romney have some future here if he can be the bipartisan focus to rally around the Republican party and support Obama in helping America regain it's footing? His speech was indicating that's the way he actually felt (something that would have won him votes if he wasn't attached to the more unpleasant aspects of the GOP) It's clear it needs to start appealing to more demographics than the older white male because it just doesn't win you elections. If the Republican party support Obama (who has shown his popularity isn't going anywhere) then one way or another they're going to be able to say "look, we were supportive of what the people want but it hasn't worked, give us a chance to do it our way" or if it all goes well they can say they played their part in the recovery and shown themselves capable of governing.
A divided America doesn't suit the Republican party because their core is getting smaller while the Democrats are getting easy votes from minority and misrepresented groups. If they keep road blocking the party the people have elected then this is only going to get worse.
Is it time for them to move away from the grossly unpopular social policies such as pro-life and anti-gay marriage (and accept that politically the only option is to give people a choice on how to live their lives) while trying to provide a political and financial alternative? There are very few Republicans who would refuse to vote for the GOP if they agreed to legalise gay marriage but I'm guessing there are a hell of a lot of gay people who will refuse to vote Republican despite agreeing with their fiscal policy.
I'm interested on opinions from both sides, what do you think the Republican party should do now (both on a personal view and what you think would be "best" politically)? If a more moderate party is in order is Romney the man to do that work or is he too toxic now?
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What next for Romney and the Republican party?
07/11/2012 03:51:50 PM
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In my view, more moderation is needed.
07/11/2012 04:17:05 PM
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Pretty sure seniors are growing MORE numerous, not less. You're probably right about the rest. *NM*
07/11/2012 05:03:17 PM
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That's true, but I don't think that's the right way to look at it.
07/11/2012 05:18:52 PM
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with the overall point.
07/11/2012 07:52:33 PM
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Libertarian is the way to go IMO.
07/11/2012 05:19:29 PM
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totally agree, i was quite disappointed Johnson didn't get better results *NM*
07/11/2012 06:15:09 PM
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I'd say they're pretty much done
07/11/2012 07:54:44 PM
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They're through. They've been utterly crushed, demolished, and annihilated after last night.
07/11/2012 10:34:47 PM
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Well Romney is retiring but no the GOP is hardly 'done'
08/11/2012 12:51:44 AM
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I do hope the Republican party have the same lax attitude, I love seeing them lose *NM*
08/11/2012 12:46:32 PM
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I imagine lots of idiots feel the same way on both sides about both parties *NM*
08/11/2012 11:05:29 PM
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If you're relying on the democrats crashing and burning
09/11/2012 02:45:41 PM
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the dems played the "wait for the repubs to crash and burn" strategy and it worked out ok this year
09/11/2012 05:01:53 PM
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Off topic, but is your Shift key broken?
09/11/2012 05:47:12 PM
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do you have similar problems when talking to people with weird hair color or clothes IRL?
09/11/2012 07:09:24 PM
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The Dems learned their lesson from the Gore campaign
09/11/2012 06:25:23 PM
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i beg to differ
09/11/2012 07:22:40 PM
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The facts speak for themselves
09/11/2012 07:46:20 PM
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Re: The facts speak for themselves
11/11/2012 01:13:05 AM
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i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy
11/11/2012 02:01:31 PM
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Re: i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy
11/11/2012 05:48:09 PM
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I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 02:16:07 PM
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Re: I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 04:51:55 PM
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Re: I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 05:48:52 PM
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There's also the fake or exaggeration aspect that might be in play but I can't judge that
11/11/2012 06:44:16 PM
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I think you were taking that statement rather literally
11/11/2012 07:36:14 PM
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I took it as a literal statement, the language implied as much to me...
11/11/2012 08:45:16 PM
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Oh, I can absolutely count on them crahsing and burning, that's a given, happens to both regularly *NM*
09/11/2012 06:28:51 PM
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You can't count on exploiting that
09/11/2012 06:39:47 PM
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'Mistakes' is subjective, sometimes you have to play your hand
11/11/2012 01:09:31 AM
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how are 300+ EVs "the skin of his teeth"?
08/11/2012 05:46:51 PM
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Because he barely won them? *NM*
08/11/2012 11:06:14 PM
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only OH, NC and FL are within 2% margin, i'd hardly call that "barely won"
08/11/2012 11:25:54 PM
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What makes you think Hillary won't be running?
08/11/2012 06:07:38 PM
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hillary has stated time and again she is done when she steps down as sec'y of state
08/11/2012 11:27:56 PM
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While I agree with the overall point that the Republican party isn't done by any means
08/11/2012 11:53:12 PM
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Romney is done; the last defeated nominee to be renominated was Nixon.
08/11/2012 04:53:52 PM
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