Sexual Assault (which I associate in my mind with rape, but which I will try to separate the two for this discussion for legally they are different things) unlike Rape can be any unwanted sexual contact. Forcing to carry a baby to term without any consent is a violation of a women.
According to Wikipedia, the FBI updated their definition only this year, to read: "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
Which means, and I think rightly so, that penetration with an object - including your turkey baster - is still rape. But in other countries the definition of rape is more narrow (possibly in the US too - the FBI having such a definition doesn't mean that criminal law says the same thing).
Anyhow, this is as you noted a rather pointless and inflammatory discussion. To get more or less back on track - am I the only one who isn't actually shocked by Mourdock's statement? If my source is correct, he said "Life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."
While I obviously couldn't disagree more about outlawing abortion for women who've been raped, I don't really see why the statement is so controversial. I'm not sure how any conservative Christian could ever claim the opposite, so what's so scandalous about him saying it? Why would he need to apologize?
every time a republican candidate mentions rape, i think of the following video
25/10/2012 05:58:16 PM
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that's hilarious and evokes a "what the shit?" much like all those gop jackasses.
25/10/2012 08:03:24 PM
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The sole difference between Western and Mideast fundamentalists is the god blamed for intolerance
26/10/2012 01:29:54 AM
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I am SO GOING to get flamed for asking this
25/10/2012 08:45:21 PM
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No, because God did not have sex with Mary.
25/10/2012 09:23:12 PM
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Closer than Roland, but still off.
25/10/2012 09:51:12 PM
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However parsed, since Marys supposed sinlessness is through Christs conception, it is retroactive
25/10/2012 10:10:48 PM
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The point I am horrible job making is this
25/10/2012 10:12:53 PM
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The biblical narrative states an act of CONCEPTION without an act of SEX.
25/10/2012 10:37:48 PM
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Seems it depends on the legislation you're in.
25/10/2012 10:50:09 PM
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New GOP Congressmen daily refute the GOPs pretended support of rape exceptions to abortion bans.
25/10/2012 10:07:21 PM
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This is not a source I generally resort to, but let me quote John Cornyn:
25/10/2012 11:11:04 PM
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I think he is an idiot for saying it
25/10/2012 11:53:01 PM
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Calling y Gods will calls x Gods will, because y depends on x.
26/10/2012 12:14:27 AM
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I'm really not going to debate theodicy with you, especially since I'm not even a believer.
26/10/2012 12:24:57 AM
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Choice forms a critical distinction there; small wonder Cornyn and Mourdock missed it.
26/10/2012 12:48:18 AM
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