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Analogy is not equality, only similarity. Joel Send a noteboard - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM
I was using it to illustrate a similularity in concept. BTW you used to not be able to get private boat insurance either until sombody decided to offer it.

Nor could anyone get car insurance—or cars—until someone offered those. At the risk of deteriorating into another Life of Brian reference, the "right to have babies" does not confer the MEANS.

essential argument remains unchanged, A gay man and a strait man have the EXACT SAME access to teh EXACT SAME marriage. "..but it isn't the person I love..." is not a legal factor. You will not find "love" anywhere in the law. "..but it isn't the person I want to marry..." falls into the same bucket.

You will find choice throughout the law; the straight person has, and the homosexual person lacks, the right to marry the consenting adult of their choice. We do not want the state arbitrarily dictating that choice to consenting adults, hence we abolished miscegenation laws.

segregation is not a good analogy because there is only 1 "marraige" not 2, (no white school/black school). Well unless there are any states that have actually created a second set of laws empowering gay marraige, without removing the hetrosexual marraige laws; which would be incredibly stupid because it would open up the whole "seperate but equal" arguments.

A number of states have done that with "civil union" laws, and, yes, it did open the segregation debate we are having. In fact, one of Mitt Romneys infamous flip flops was such a case: He endorsed the MA constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage but allow civil unions—then condemned it on the grounds it "confused voters who opposed both same-sex marriage and civil unions."

"for" was poor word choice, I thought about going back and editing, but thought my point would still get accross; apparently not, so I will rephrase.

"..but I don't WANT that type of marriage..." Is not you being discriminated against. It is you not wanting to participate in what currently exists.

But they do want to participate, for a variety of reasons, including (but not limited to) the host of legal benefits marriage grants. They simply do not want whom they participate with dictated by others, any more than you or I do. How is it non-discriminatory to dicate in ONE specific case, but no others?
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+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 334 Views
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Analogy is not equality, only similarity. - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 840 Views
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yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 764 Views

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