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How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? Burr Send a noteboard - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM
If I were going to try, I'd probably try to draw an parallel between the doll experiment used in the Brown trial and the suicide statistics for LGBT youth today. But I doubt that would be enough by itself. I wouldn't be surprised if the opposing attorney could counter with similar statistics resulting from discrimination against women at some point in history. They'd merely have to argue that, even if LGBT discrimination is bad, it is not historically worse than other forms of sexual discrimination; and then add that LGBT issues are more similar in quality to sexual issues than racial ones.

I wasn't a fan at all of the argument Windsor's lawyer made, which sounded to me like, "Homosexuals are more equally able to contribute to society than women." That's got all sorts of logical problems on top of potentially offending the judges. But at the same time, while I'd love to get suspect scrutiny (if it could be done justly), I'm not sure how best to argue it.
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This message last edited by Burr on 21/10/2012 at 04:33:43 PM
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy? - 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM 1424 Views
Legal rights. - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 826 Views
It almost sounds like you are saying... - 20/10/2012 12:31:40 AM 801 Views
That is what I'm saying it. - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 784 Views
Technically, privileges, not rights. - 20/10/2012 04:16:45 AM 787 Views
Sure - 20/10/2012 12:35:53 AM 717 Views
All for it... For adults over the age of 18. *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:18:04 AM 427 Views
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+1 *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 452 Views
+2 *NM* - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 399 Views
should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM 402 Views
poly people? - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 752 Views
Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM 390 Views
That's a huge chunk of what government does. - 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM 755 Views
That's not what I'm saying - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 777 Views
So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard! - 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM 728 Views
Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence.. - 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM 793 Views
Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 718 Views
The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 813 Views
Ha! Point. *NM* - 20/10/2012 05:40:34 AM 590 Views
Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM 748 Views
I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two. - 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM 814 Views
The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption - 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM 772 Views
From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant - 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM 882 Views
How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM 805 Views
I wouldn't put it in exactly the same category. - 21/10/2012 08:43:51 PM 833 Views
That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM 968 Views
I got no opinion on it. - 20/10/2012 12:51:43 PM 846 Views
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As long as it is equitable - 20/10/2012 05:55:57 PM 719 Views
The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway - 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM 793 Views
Indeed - 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM 852 Views
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And so? - 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM 749 Views
Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 930 Views
Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none. - 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM 806 Views
You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 723 Views
Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government. - 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM 664 Views
Much less force, yes. - 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM 674 Views
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+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 334 Views
No the analogy is not exact, nor legally the same... - 23/10/2012 07:33:25 PM 638 Views
Analogy is not equality, only similarity. - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 840 Views
We aren't asking for something better or different. - 23/10/2012 04:27:04 PM 727 Views
yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 765 Views

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