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How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? Burr Send a noteboard - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM
If I were going to try, I'd probably try to draw an parallel between the doll experiment used in the Brown trial and the suicide statistics for LGBT youth today. But I doubt that would be enough by itself. I wouldn't be surprised if the opposing attorney could counter with similar statistics resulting from discrimination against women at some point in history. They'd merely have to argue that, even if LGBT discrimination is bad, it is not historically worse than other forms of sexual discrimination; and then add that LGBT issues are more similar in quality to sexual issues than racial ones.

I wasn't a fan at all of the argument Windsor's lawyer made, which sounded to me like, "Homosexuals are more equally able to contribute to society than women." That's got all sorts of logical problems on top of potentially offending the judges. But at the same time, while I'd love to get suspect scrutiny (if it could be done justly), I'm not sure how best to argue it.
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This message last edited by Burr on 21/10/2012 at 04:33:43 PM
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Legal rights. - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 820 Views
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That is what I'm saying it. - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 776 Views
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+1 *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 448 Views
+2 *NM* - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 397 Views
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poly people? - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 742 Views
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That's not what I'm saying - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 769 Views
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Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 712 Views
The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 806 Views
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From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant - 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM 872 Views
How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM 799 Views
I wouldn't put it in exactly the same category. - 21/10/2012 08:43:51 PM 827 Views
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Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 922 Views
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You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 717 Views
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+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 331 Views
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yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 757 Views

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