And on the other hand, various "logical justifications" tend to boil down to one thing:
beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 16/10/2012 11:01:50 PM
No matter how many arguments they can site, anti-gay marriage arguments come down to, "Gay relationships are not as legitimate/meaningful/important as straight ones."
So, sure, maybe being against gay marriage doesn't automatically mean you're so hateful that you want to start a new chapter of Hitler Youth, but there is a commonality there.
My grandma was a sweet old lady, and I know she had at least one or two black friends, but she was pretty adamantly against mixed-race marriages. She wasn't malicious, she wasn't a bad person, but on a certain level, yes, she was bigoted.
So while I see what you're saying, "just because someone is against gay marriage doesn't mean they eat babies," I DO think it's important not to let bigots off the hook.
I believe in free speech, so if someone wants to be a bigot- be a bigot. Just as long as they don't try to kid themselves that they're just "thinking of the children" or whatever.
So, sure, maybe being against gay marriage doesn't automatically mean you're so hateful that you want to start a new chapter of Hitler Youth, but there is a commonality there.
My grandma was a sweet old lady, and I know she had at least one or two black friends, but she was pretty adamantly against mixed-race marriages. She wasn't malicious, she wasn't a bad person, but on a certain level, yes, she was bigoted.
So while I see what you're saying, "just because someone is against gay marriage doesn't mean they eat babies," I DO think it's important not to let bigots off the hook.
I believe in free speech, so if someone wants to be a bigot- be a bigot. Just as long as they don't try to kid themselves that they're just "thinking of the children" or whatever.
I amuse myself.
This message last edited by beetnemesis on 16/10/2012 at 11:05:37 PM
A Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay
14/10/2012 12:25:34 PM
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OK, I thought that was cool. Put his money where his mouth is, so to speak. *NM*
14/10/2012 12:37:55 PM
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Plenty of the comments are really disheartening
14/10/2012 07:23:42 PM
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There was one that I thought pretty good:
15/10/2012 10:57:42 PM
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I have to agree with that one. Most people come out in order to be more honest with their family.
16/10/2012 02:39:46 AM
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"The vast majority of conservative Christians are not hateful bigots at all."
15/10/2012 10:55:34 PM
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He does say his mother came around in the end.
15/10/2012 10:57:50 PM
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Maybe most conservative christians...
15/10/2012 11:44:13 PM
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Sorry, that is just an attempted role-reversal; objecting to hatred is not the "real hatred."
16/10/2012 01:26:39 AM
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In addition, the bible doesn't forbid it. The bible is not a monolithic work, but an anthology.
16/10/2012 02:32:59 AM
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What I said is correct.
16/10/2012 05:49:13 PM
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Dude, the "You're intolerant of intolerance!" argument is so played out
16/10/2012 08:34:35 PM
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I think he has a good point. It just shouldn't be generalized so far as he is doing.
16/10/2012 09:23:13 PM
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Wrong. I am talking about labels and what they are used for.
16/10/2012 10:42:11 PM
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And on the other hand, various "logical justifications" tend to boil down to one thing:
16/10/2012 11:01:50 PM
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I actually DO believe that anti-gay-marriage people eat babies ;-) *NM*
16/10/2012 11:32:35 PM
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We use "bigot" like Christians use "sinner."
16/10/2012 09:12:39 PM
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You can't just assume someone has the motivation you want them to have.
16/10/2012 11:08:09 PM
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For me it is as simple as looking into my own heart, several years back.
17/10/2012 04:51:13 AM
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