I can't deny that it can be used while frothing at the mouth, but the hyperbolic and insultive usage of the term is not its only usage, just like not all Christians are being hyperbolic or insultive when they describe a group as "sinners". Both labels can be matters of disagreement, to be sure, but both are still relatively fair and benign from one's own perspective. It doesn't matter how nice or respectable a person is, sin is sin and bigotry is bigotry, as defined by the groups who use the terms. I'm not going to quit using the term "bigot" anymore than I'd expect a Christian to quit using the term "sinner."
Same thing with "hateful," really. Granted, we poorly use it sometimes to paint a group as Naziesque, when really the two levels of hate in no way compare. If you are decrying that usage, then you are certainly correct. But realize that it is even more often used in a more clinical way, to describe how social conservatives tend to see us as a "them" to be excluded. That is hateful; it just isn't frothing at the mouth hateful. And when a part of gay subculture is excluding straight people in the same sort of way, you should certainly call them out for it. (And yes, I am sure if you look hard enough you could find someone using the term "bigot" in a truly hateful way -- to tag that person as a "them" to be excluded. But I don't think that is at all the common usage of it.)
Same thing with "hateful," really. Granted, we poorly use it sometimes to paint a group as Naziesque, when really the two levels of hate in no way compare. If you are decrying that usage, then you are certainly correct. But realize that it is even more often used in a more clinical way, to describe how social conservatives tend to see us as a "them" to be excluded. That is hateful; it just isn't frothing at the mouth hateful. And when a part of gay subculture is excluding straight people in the same sort of way, you should certainly call them out for it. (And yes, I am sure if you look hard enough you could find someone using the term "bigot" in a truly hateful way -- to tag that person as a "them" to be excluded. But I don't think that is at all the common usage of it.)
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Only so evil.
Only so evil.
This message last edited by Burr on 16/10/2012 at 09:30:14 PM
A Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay
14/10/2012 12:25:34 PM
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OK, I thought that was cool. Put his money where his mouth is, so to speak. *NM*
14/10/2012 12:37:55 PM
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Plenty of the comments are really disheartening
14/10/2012 07:23:42 PM
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There was one that I thought pretty good:
15/10/2012 10:57:42 PM
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I have to agree with that one. Most people come out in order to be more honest with their family.
16/10/2012 02:39:46 AM
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"The vast majority of conservative Christians are not hateful bigots at all."
15/10/2012 10:55:34 PM
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He does say his mother came around in the end.
15/10/2012 10:57:50 PM
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Maybe most conservative christians...
15/10/2012 11:44:13 PM
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Sorry, that is just an attempted role-reversal; objecting to hatred is not the "real hatred."
16/10/2012 01:26:39 AM
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In addition, the bible doesn't forbid it. The bible is not a monolithic work, but an anthology.
16/10/2012 02:32:59 AM
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What I said is correct.
16/10/2012 05:49:13 PM
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Dude, the "You're intolerant of intolerance!" argument is so played out
16/10/2012 08:34:35 PM
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I think he has a good point. It just shouldn't be generalized so far as he is doing.
16/10/2012 09:23:13 PM
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Wrong. I am talking about labels and what they are used for.
16/10/2012 10:42:11 PM
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And on the other hand, various "logical justifications" tend to boil down to one thing:
16/10/2012 11:01:50 PM
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I actually DO believe that anti-gay-marriage people eat babies ;-) *NM*
16/10/2012 11:32:35 PM
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We use "bigot" like Christians use "sinner."
16/10/2012 09:12:39 PM
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You can't just assume someone has the motivation you want them to have.
16/10/2012 11:08:09 PM
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For me it is as simple as looking into my own heart, several years back.
17/10/2012 04:51:13 AM
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