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Unrelated business income is taxable under IRC 511. You know that. Tom Send a noteboard - 27/09/2012 11:31:45 PM
If you want to get into deep tax policy, then I think that 501(c)(3)s should have to produce yearly reports that detail how money was spent. Some charities that use paid promoters and solicitors end up handing over as much as 80% (or more, in some extreme cases) of their profits to the for-profit groups. Those charities should lose their status, because essentially the government is losing tax revenue to employ people to harass families when they eat (and because charities are not considered commercial speech, the Do Not Call Registry doesn't apply to them). Of course, I managed to get all of them to stop calling me years ago by starting to ask them what percentage of their revenue went to the charity itself and what was spent on promotion, advertising and third party services. I noticed that they started hanging up on me and the calls stopped altogether a year later.

The point is that, in principle, I think that churches should be considered charities. Scientology, however, is clearly not a charity, but a tax dodge masquerading as a religion for the purpose of abusing the existing 501(c)(3) regulations and no-action letters. Of course, even then, they were able to defend their 501(c)(3) status, as I'm sure you're aware. I think that a re-write of the Code that gave the IRS the means to challenge Scientology again would probably result in a quick disbanding of that quack religion, especially now that their power base has imploded.

As for your last question, "What about religions that do more harm than good?", I think that it's a subjective question in most cases where the activity isn't blatantly criminal (and therefore not tax-exempt anyway). A Southern Evangelical would say that Islam and Judaism do more harm than good, insofar as they lack Christ and, lacking Christ, they lead their followers away from God. An atheist might say all religions do more harm than good because they reinforce quaint and anachronistic notions of the metaphysical makeup of the universe and impose a "big old guy in the sky" with arbitrary rules on a society that has advanced beyond that point.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? - 25/09/2012 02:54:28 AM 511 Views
"Anyone" means "anyone;" perhaps you have a writing comprehension problem. - 25/09/2012 03:39:11 AM 495 Views
Joel = Moron - 25/09/2012 04:37:15 AM 514 Views
You could leave out the insults, you know? - 25/09/2012 08:35:12 AM 585 Views
It is an old debate, and one with many edits. - 23/09/2012 06:32:40 AM 686 Views
Re: Taxes and Charity - 23/09/2012 07:47:16 AM 597 Views
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Ok - 26/09/2012 07:36:35 PM 584 Views
Is the Mormon Church not part of society? But that issue is part of why I favor taxation. *NM* - 23/09/2012 10:14:39 PM 203 Views
I'm part of society too. Does that mean I'm as worthy a recipient of money as the public purse? *NM* - 23/09/2012 10:37:31 PM 245 Views
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Charity in place of tax - 24/09/2012 12:05:03 PM 542 Views
I am very well aware of that. *NM* - 24/09/2012 01:47:06 PM 199 Views
I DISagree with both of you. - 25/09/2012 02:36:05 AM 1814 Views
Re: I DISagree with both of you. - 25/09/2012 02:26:16 PM 796 Views
At the risk of sounding like a fundamentalist... - 23/09/2012 11:05:14 PM 544 Views
Local symphonies are usually charities - 23/09/2012 11:21:07 PM 531 Views
Very well said. *NM* - 24/09/2012 06:12:23 PM 232 Views
will you count Scientology as a church? - 26/09/2012 03:26:53 PM 528 Views
Unrelated business income is taxable under IRC 511. You know that. - 27/09/2012 11:31:45 PM 503 Views
You need both. - 26/09/2012 03:35:41 PM 582 Views

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