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Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/09/2012 06:13:46 AM
If you need one. The whole ESPN crew was stunned.

"This video is not authorized for your location (NO)" In case I, like, FORGOT WHERE I AM. :P

Huh. Why is football illegal where you are?

Er, it is not? Or if it is, the laws are VERY loosely enforced; I have been known to play catch with friends and family in the park (in public! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! :O)

Nah, football is not illegal here, but ESPN, NBC and a lot of networks do not want to show their stuff overseas unless people pay; often they cannot be bothered to make it availabe even when people are able and eager to pay. Hopefully there will be a link of the play somewhere else soon; I might try NFL.com later if it does not crash Chrome yet again, because I do not have to worry about violating their copyright on their site.
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/NFL: now that replacement refs have cost the packers a win, can we please get the real ones back? *NM* moondog - 25/09/2012 05:14:58 AM 658 Views
I was gonna keep it to one thread, but hell, I'll join yours. Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:24:26 AM 679 Views
Link? Clip? Joel - 25/09/2012 05:27:07 AM 646 Views
Let's just say that Gruden used the word "Jobbed" in the live telecast. *NM* Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:35:08 AM 411 Views
Here's a link. Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:36:56 AM 732 Views
Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Joel - 25/09/2012 05:47:07 AM 542 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:52:55 AM 783 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Joel - 25/09/2012 06:13:46 AM 736 Views
youtube link Orange - 25/09/2012 07:00:29 AM 741 Views
Thanks; that looks like a textbook case of simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver: TD. Joel - 25/09/2012 07:29:28 AM 635 Views
pete carroll is a cheating douchebag, you cannot take his word for what happened moondog - 25/09/2012 10:59:33 AM 898 Views
I did not; I watched the clip: Simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:30:18 AM 1242 Views
watch a better replay if you can moondog - 26/09/2012 02:38:17 AM 702 Views
Have now; still not convinced. Joel - 26/09/2012 04:01:23 AM 741 Views
that's ok. you're still wrong moondog - 26/09/2012 04:12:56 AM 751 Views
I know you are but what am I? *MN* Joel - 26/09/2012 04:48:47 AM 703 Views
also, the pass interference on tate that wasn't called is clear at 0:56 in that clip moondog - 25/09/2012 11:27:36 AM 705 Views
Tate was looking for the ball, and raised his hands to catch it, not push off Sam Shields. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:33:46 AM 651 Views
watch a better replay and get back to me on this one. moondog - 26/09/2012 02:36:43 AM 700 Views
Where did the NFL head office acknowledge that? Joel - 26/09/2012 03:52:36 AM 810 Views
in their official response to the whole incident....? moondog - 26/09/2012 04:14:52 AM 934 Views
Fair enough then; the NFLs official position is that offensive PI should have been called. Joel - 26/09/2012 04:45:58 AM 702 Views
Yeah, if one hand counts as possession Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:15:37 PM 725 Views
new rule: catch the guy who caught the ball -- score a TD *NM* moondog - 26/09/2012 12:10:05 AM 372 Views
Left hand between Jennings' arms and on the ball; right was outside Jennings' arm and on the ball. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:38:28 AM 659 Views
How have you not seen this play? Are you in a cave? *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 03:57:55 PM 349 Views
No, I am in Norway, where NFL coverage is rather limited. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:40:07 AM 843 Views
Wait, you're not in Houston? *NM* Dark Knight - 26/09/2012 01:42:45 AM 366 Views
Not since the Texas Sesquicentennial, no. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:45:29 AM 615 Views
While you can hardly blame the replacement refs because they are basically trainees... Mats Gambling Buddy - 25/09/2012 06:05:22 AM 817 Views
Now I really want to see this play. Joel - 25/09/2012 06:27:42 AM 812 Views
Re: Now I really want to see this play. Mats Gambling Buddy - 25/09/2012 02:48:56 PM 723 Views
I have still only seen the YouTube clip, but it looked like they both had both hands on the ball. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:58:27 AM 653 Views
There are good views on nfl.com. Will link. callandor1000 - 26/09/2012 02:16:51 AM 825 Views
Thanks; I still do not see much to change my mind. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:32:43 AM 719 Views
The last call was a joke. Orange - 25/09/2012 06:52:59 AM 666 Views
You might appreciate learning that the Lingerie Football League fired some of these refs Larry - 25/09/2012 07:19:37 AM 729 Views
Tie goes to the receiver - the rule for decades. The Packers benefitted from worse calls last year Cannoli - 25/09/2012 11:31:47 AM 752 Views
you probably think greedo shot first too..... moondog - 25/09/2012 01:49:03 PM 704 Views
Possession doesn't mean squat until you land. Tate had it by then Cannoli - 25/09/2012 03:13:29 PM 704 Views
he had nothing until they landed and he tried to pull it away. everyone but you agrees on this *NM* moondog - 25/09/2012 03:25:43 PM 343 Views
Not so; Cannoli and I agree on pretty much every point involved in this play. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:17:01 AM 677 Views
They can't reverse that call. Aemon - 25/09/2012 04:43:28 PM 789 Views
the only possible way was to rule it incomplete moondog - 25/09/2012 10:42:25 PM 764 Views
It was very obviously caught; you can't rule that incomplete. Aemon - 25/09/2012 11:06:17 PM 685 Views
my philosophy is "interception = incomplete" but i think that's only for stats purposes moondog - 26/09/2012 12:32:43 AM 639 Views
Congrats Cannoli, you are the only person (thing?) in the country who thinks it's a TD *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 03:53:18 PM 473 Views
I'm not even the only person in this thread, moron. *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2012 04:07:48 PM 386 Views
Joel hasn't even seen the play, douchebag *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 04:12:35 PM 351 Views
Just so you can get this information without namecalling ... Nate - 25/09/2012 04:18:41 PM 677 Views
No I mean he hasn't seen the replay over and over on ESPN *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 04:21:46 PM 356 Views
I have seen enough of it, and while I did not write Cannolis response, I easily could have. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:06:45 AM 696 Views
Interesting. What is the rule with arguing refs? Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:18:35 PM 616 Views
That response was disturbingly like my thoughts on the play. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:49:37 AM 706 Views
As a Seahawks fan. Stephen - 25/09/2012 02:10:58 PM 662 Views
No. Not with that attitude. *NM* Palatine - 25/09/2012 04:03:32 PM 330 Views
*throws public tantrum* *NM* moondog - 25/09/2012 10:39:22 PM 320 Views
Slightly (very) loopy yet entertaining piece on why Ayn Rand is to blame for all of this. Stephen - 25/09/2012 05:38:12 PM 629 Views
She hates revenue sharing, salary caps & the draft, too, but the Pack would be screwed without each. Joel - 26/09/2012 03:34:00 AM 648 Views
Here's the proof Cannoli is refusing to see Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 05:54:07 PM 760 Views
Clearer shot, but stills do not allow us to see where Tates hands were at all times. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:10:25 AM 564 Views
you can't claim "good ol' strip" *AND* simultaneous catch -- which is it? moondog - 26/09/2012 02:35:41 AM 998 Views
I do not claim both: I claim simultaneous catch but IF not, then strip. Joel - 26/09/2012 03:51:47 AM 985 Views
you sure you saw the right replay? moondog - 26/09/2012 04:21:57 AM 682 Views
Think so, yeah. Joel - 26/09/2012 04:58:15 AM 804 Views
from another angle -- pun intended moondog - 26/09/2012 04:01:54 PM 670 Views
There are two separate issues: 1) Was it a simultaneous catch; 2) IF not, was it a strip? Joel - 27/09/2012 08:54:52 AM 855 Views
your opinion is against pretty much everyone in the world, so..... *shrug* moondog - 27/09/2012 03:55:33 PM 888 Views
Thanks; I did not expect you to give in so easily. Joel - 27/09/2012 10:14:30 PM 711 Views
did you even read that article??? moondog - 28/09/2012 12:35:39 AM 723 Views
"his control wasn’t established again...." Joel - 28/09/2012 01:08:03 AM 998 Views
wow, what a thorough analysis you sent me either way, you're still wrong moondog - 28/09/2012 02:05:24 AM 789 Views
That is not an argument. Joel - 28/09/2012 02:26:58 AM 610 Views
Worst calls are made all the time by the regular officials. callandor1000 - 26/09/2012 01:23:57 AM 659 Views
yes, but not usually more than one per game, certainly not several in a single weekend.... *NM* moondog - 26/09/2012 02:39:56 AM 357 Views
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