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Did someone hit you over the head? "Two things why it is important"? Really? Tom Send a noteboard - 20/09/2012 03:50:02 PM
The word "reasons" would have been syntactically far, far better.

Also, you can't use "little" with "documents" - "few" is correct. And I guess relative to the explosion of information that we have for the past two hundred years or so, we do have few documents that are 1600 years old. But relatively speaking, we have quite a lot. In fact, there has been so much information coming out of Egypt that often these papyri were used for kindling prior to, say, 1950. That's what almost happened to the Nag Hammadi codices. Scraps of papyrus this small are common finds in Egypt, and usually they're not significant.

By pointing out that it would have "more religious authority weight" (again, couldn't you say it would be more authoritative? what's with your syntax in this response?) if it were not 300 years after the start of the Christian era, you undermine your argument, because my exact point is that it isn't authoritative because by that point in time, there were dozens of Gnostic groups operating in Egypt, and several talked openly about Jesus being married to Mary Magdalene. Dan Brown correctly cited one of their surviving papyri (though of course he then threw on layer upon layer of fictional shit on top, and served the whole steaming pile of crap to readers as the "truth", when in fact it wasn't).

Your second point undermines your argument even more than your first, however. You point out (correctly) that most people don't know much about Christian history. If that is the case, this fragment will be even more misleading to them, because as we all know, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. They will conclude (if they hear about this) that Jesus was married, that Dan Brown was right, that there is a Templar group keeping His descendants alive, and so on in that manner.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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So, about this silly "Jesus' wife" story making the rounds... - 19/09/2012 10:55:55 PM 1224 Views
That's right! Jesus' position on marriage was "One man, no woman." *NM* - 19/09/2012 11:05:55 PM 552 Views
What is the context? The canonical bible says Christ has a wife: The Church. - 19/09/2012 11:25:19 PM 855 Views
Oh please...don't confuse "wife" with "bride" - 19/09/2012 11:35:09 PM 825 Views
What word do the Prophets use for Israels relationship to God? - 20/09/2012 12:38:20 AM 817 Views
BRIDE - 20/09/2012 03:39:30 PM 794 Views
Two things why it is important - 20/09/2012 04:24:37 AM 793 Views
Did someone hit you over the head? "Two things why it is important"? Really? - 20/09/2012 03:50:02 PM 870 Views
There is a very good reason no one dismissed the illegitmate gospels as illegitimate until 180 AD: - 20/09/2012 09:15:05 PM 735 Views
The Gospel of Thomas was written before 180 AD. - 20/09/2012 09:33:44 PM 744 Views
What is the oldest extant text of or reference to it? - 20/09/2012 11:11:03 PM 816 Views
The Oxyrhynchus fragments were dated to c. 200 AD, and they are copies - 21/09/2012 12:18:33 AM 725 Views
I would buy 200 AD, of course. - 21/09/2012 12:58:32 AM 796 Views
It's not about "buying" it - it's essentially proven at that point. - 21/09/2012 03:26:50 AM 764 Views
Yes; all I meant was that I never disputed a date around 200 AD. - 22/09/2012 12:25:41 AM 775 Views
I don't think any of the gospels were written by their purported authors. - 22/09/2012 03:36:32 AM 705 Views
Not even Mark or Luke? - 22/09/2012 01:21:24 PM 732 Views
Well, but everyone knew Peter didn't speak Greek - 22/09/2012 09:46:57 PM 684 Views
What about those who postulate a mid-to-late 1st century composition? - 22/09/2012 02:21:18 AM 817 Views
Elaine Pagels ceased to be an impartial academic a long time ago. - 22/09/2012 03:41:41 AM 763 Views
Suspected as much, but wanted to see if you thought so as well - 22/09/2012 03:47:05 AM 906 Views
Let's not get started on Funk - 22/09/2012 09:48:05 PM 703 Views
So true - 22/09/2012 10:23:08 PM 815 Views
don't these people have anything better to do? - 20/09/2012 11:39:35 PM 740 Views
Clearly not. - 22/09/2012 12:27:29 AM 654 Views
then i'll escape this thread before anyone twigs - 22/09/2012 08:12:37 PM 816 Views
Too late, I have already twigged, branched and treed. - 22/09/2012 08:58:39 PM 799 Views
I know! - 21/09/2012 06:48:33 AM 926 Views
See, Tom, you made a mistake. - 22/09/2012 10:25:22 AM 778 Views

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