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Yes, what is $189,000 a year, for 17 days' work and no accountability! Mere crumbs!!! Cannoli Send a noteboard - 19/09/2012 12:12:40 AM
These scrubs are NOT working. They have no respect from players, coaches, or even the commentators.

And all of this for what? Honoring a pension plan you set up years ago? This is peanuts compared to what the NFL is making, and they are quibbling over a defined benefits retirement plan?
As I understand, they are refusing the offered salary mentioned above and I believe they are also resistant to being held accountable for bad calls.

Honestly, I don't really care what the actual grievance is. The NFL refs are already part-time employees making less than any other pro-sport officials. That should be rectified, regardless of who asks for it.
How much do part-timers expect to get?! You seem to be saying that their part-times status is some sort of affliction or hardship. It's a sideline for most of them. And comparisons to the other sports officials are ridiculous, since the jobs are so different. There was a point a few years ago when Marshall Faulk with a brand new contract commensurate with his status as reigning NFL MVP was making less than the #6 starter for the Yankees. Football players make less than baseball or basketball players, so why should the referees make more than the other sports' officials?

This isn't about the money... its the owners stretching their muscles. I only hope that with the overturning of the Saints suspensions, and hopefully the NFL finally realizing what they are paying for with their Refs, that the Goodell administration can be brought to heel.
Why should the Saints' suspensions be overturned? Those actions were immoral and possibly criminal, let alone against the specific rules of the NFL. Back when the Patriots were getting excoriated for Spygate, their defense of "no harm done" was getting brushed aside with the point that what was done was explicitly against NFL rules. Well, so was what the Saints did, in addition to being against any reasonable standards of morality, and at a time when the NFL was making a definite, if somewhat misguided and misapplied attempt to curtail injuries to players.

As for flexing their muscles, what else are muscles for? Why should they knuckle under to any demands from a peripheral group that is not essential to the job? The replacements are inexperienced, and will get better. They have not yet cost anyone a game with their errors, and will need to do a lot worse before they convince me that they are significantly inferior to the sorts of top-quality officiating crews that extended two touchdown drives in a playoff game with extremely bad calls last season, or who cost the Giants a playoff game in 2003 with such an egregious miscalling of the final play that the NFL apologized!
Cannoli
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Yes, what is $189,000 a year, for 17 days' work and no accountability! Mere crumbs!!! - 19/09/2012 12:12:40 AM 397 Views

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