I technically agree with you, but there is always the gray area. It is not my stance, but saying that Obama fosters a sense of entitlement and that people are being "lazy" and taking advantage of that is not talking about two entirely separate concepts.
I do think more people rely on unemployment than should; however, saying that everyone who needs it is "lazy" is never going to be true.
I do think more people rely on unemployment than should; however, saying that everyone who needs it is "lazy" is never going to be true.
Closely examining the idea of Obama is some kind of "entitlement king" exposes it as fantasy. He has created no entitlements, and only expanded one I know of: Unemployment insurance, only available to previously employed people who document ongoing but unsuccessful efforts to find work. Having never been on it I do not know which are state and which federal requirements, but in TX unemployment insurance requires recipients look for work daily and prove they did so; naturally, benefits end once unemployment does. So I am not sure how much "reliance" occurs except for those genuinely seeking but unable to find work.
That last is the problem: The conceit there are plenty of jobs for anyone not too proud to take them AND that unacceptably high unemployment is intolerably burdening hardworking Americans. Those positions are mutually exclusive: Are they hard working Americans needing but not getting the presidents help, or lazy bums who deserve no unemployment insurance? If the former, a president PLEDGED not to help will not, so Romney is not the answer; if the latter, their unemployment is not Obamas fault, and thus no reason to remove him.
The idea unemployment insurance or the rest of the welfare state creates a culture of dependency was at least a plausible accusation against FDR, even if few fell for it until the Reagan Revolution, but Obama? He was not even BORN until 30 years after the creation of Social Security and unemployment insurance, and was only 4 when Medicare and Medicaid were created. It is therefore hard to see how they could be his fault even if they did somehow convince 25 million people to quit their jobs (the idea anyone <65 would quit their jobs to live off SS and Medicare is absurd in the first place; it is not even POSSIBLE without SS disability, which is nightmarishly difficult to qualify for even with acute demonstrated need. If there is a problem, Obama did not create it; he inherited it along with the rest of us.
So what is left? Robomacare? People quit work because they must buy unaffordable insurance or get it from their employer? See any problems with that logic?
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So I guess I'm part of the "47%"?
18/09/2012 04:40:11 AM
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Lots of lazy people out there - everyone should work, whether or not it is the.....
18/09/2012 04:55:29 AM
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Oh, I love to work when it's available...
18/09/2012 05:01:21 AM
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You can't find work as a teacher? *NM*
18/09/2012 05:07:04 AM
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Not as crazy as it sounds- a lot depends on where you are, and what you teach. *NM*
18/09/2012 05:12:25 AM
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Unemployment is either the fault of people too lazy to work, or Obamas fault.
18/09/2012 05:28:26 AM
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That's... actually a cogent point. *NM*
18/09/2012 09:11:07 AM
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Happy to oblige.
18/09/2012 09:28:48 AM
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Well, that's not exactly the point, and I think you know it.
18/09/2012 05:24:48 PM
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In terms of employment, it really is, inescapably.
18/09/2012 09:48:28 PM
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Nope.
18/09/2012 10:29:50 PM
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Even granting the first part, extending unemployment insurance 6 months=/=4 years of 8% unemployment
19/09/2012 12:06:15 AM
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Actually, there was one other Obama "entitlement:" He gave out a lot of small business loans.
18/09/2012 10:01:45 PM
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That's not really the point though, is it?
18/09/2012 09:41:52 AM
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American politics is a joke. As such, you will see/hear stupid things like this all the time.
19/09/2012 05:14:56 PM
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Hold on there. Everyone should work? And conservatives time and time again talk out their asses.
19/09/2012 05:04:30 PM
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You are only saying that because he is not latino!
18/09/2012 05:20:14 AM
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Oh, but do not forget: If you make $200,000-$250,000/year you are also "middle class."
18/09/2012 06:10:55 AM
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God, how I despise this attitude of his
18/09/2012 09:42:34 AM
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We need a safety net
18/09/2012 05:08:43 PM
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You are forgetting that Obama only graduated due to the evils of Affirmative Action
18/09/2012 05:16:24 PM
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Lets say I accept that premise of admittance was caused by Affirmative Action
18/09/2012 05:33:13 PM
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Just to answer your questions....
18/09/2012 05:54:33 PM
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Harvard Law Review
18/09/2012 06:53:47 PM
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That first sentence is too long: "If it wasn't due to the safety net George Romney would not lived"
18/09/2012 10:00:12 PM
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I don't recall him (or any other Republican) advocating a revocation of assistance.
18/09/2012 11:02:08 PM
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It's valid to argue about the number (and everyone is), but Romney's basic point is valid.
18/09/2012 10:59:48 PM
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I guess his is perhaps a true "politically incorrect" comment (much as I hate that phrase)?
19/09/2012 12:05:48 AM
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