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Curious as to where you read these things TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM
GMOs just upped the ante because the long term effects are almost impossible to know now, and because they prevent farmers replanting seed, sterilize the next generation of neighboring related plants, crowd out the other plants through natural selection, and kill harmless or even beneficial neighboring organisms through biologically produced pest/herbicides.


I have an interest in the field and I haven't come across anything close to substantial evidence that they actually happen outside lab conditions (and in a couple of the scenarios you mentioned not even that). I'd be interested if you could point me in the direction of the journal articles where they show it happens, I'm amazed I haven't come across them myself.
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I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 08:01:41 PM 1068 Views
I think it makes sense in some cases but mostly it makes you feel like you are doing something random thoughts - 11/09/2012 08:25:54 PM 562 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food temeraire - 11/09/2012 08:55:17 PM 593 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food TheCrownless - 11/09/2012 09:20:49 PM 616 Views
i suggest watching henry rollins' film h is for hunger. and then looking up research on gmo crops' temeraire - 12/09/2012 12:57:48 AM 465 Views
I'm familiar with the literature on this matter actually. TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 07:26:09 PM 508 Views
Okay kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:05:39 PM 553 Views
Re: Okay temeraire - 12/09/2012 01:26:20 AM 494 Views
Re: Okay kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 04:25:19 PM 583 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about food Kuke - 11/09/2012 08:59:54 PM 778 Views
I am intrigued by your ideas. Nate - 12/09/2012 03:20:13 PM 488 Views
I'm a biology graduate so I'm a bit bias but... TheCrownless - 11/09/2012 09:41:00 PM 680 Views
Thank you for you perspective! *NM* kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:14:49 PM 271 Views
I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming decades. Tom - 11/09/2012 10:11:33 PM 570 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:35:08 PM 595 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- DomA - 12/09/2012 02:38:24 AM 589 Views
Good points kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 09:28:41 AM 629 Views
Re: Good points DomA - 12/09/2012 02:09:49 PM 551 Views
Yes. ironclad - 12/09/2012 10:01:36 AM 531 Views
I like it. Stephen - 11/09/2012 11:29:08 PM 633 Views
What I think Sareitha Sedai - 12/09/2012 03:43:29 PM 480 Views
Re: What I think Stephen - 12/09/2012 04:26:34 PM 568 Views
Did you just INVITE me to ramble? Joel - 11/09/2012 11:30:01 PM 710 Views
Actually (minor pedants point) TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 08:23:48 PM 602 Views
I hold to the view that most food is organic Isaac - 12/09/2012 12:15:27 AM 636 Views
If you are also interested in more views, todays New York Times is discussing it, also. Joel - 12/09/2012 02:45:22 AM 642 Views
What I think (now in the right spot!) Sareitha Sedai - 12/09/2012 04:02:31 PM 649 Views
I'm so glad you responded. nossy - 12/09/2012 04:14:31 PM 613 Views
organic has always been more about the process than the extra nutrition moondog - 12/09/2012 04:02:53 PM 553 Views
Re: organic has always been more about the process than the extra nutrition kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 04:43:02 PM 598 Views
Well... jh - 12/09/2012 08:15:13 PM 663 Views
I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. Tim - 12/09/2012 11:40:40 PM 521 Views
Actually, I believe the "no pesticides" part predates the "no GMOs" part. Joel - 13/09/2012 05:26:53 AM 534 Views
You're right... DomA - 13/09/2012 08:43:52 AM 624 Views
Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. Joel - 14/09/2012 03:35:56 PM 619 Views
Re: Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. DomA - 16/09/2012 07:45:25 PM 587 Views
That is a very interesting overview, thanks. Joel - 17/09/2012 11:22:38 PM 560 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. DomA - 20/09/2012 08:44:45 PM 591 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. Joel - 24/09/2012 03:06:35 AM 598 Views
Curious as to where you read these things TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM 576 Views
Joel is becoming (or has totally become) a crazy conspiracy nut. Tom - 14/09/2012 02:52:38 PM 536 Views
I am aware of no corroborating scientific research, no Joel - 14/09/2012 03:53:42 PM 601 Views
I have some serious problems with that I'm afraid. TheCrownless - 14/09/2012 05:53:39 PM 491 Views
Fair enough; I have some serious fears with GMOs. Joel - 15/09/2012 03:58:13 AM 651 Views
This is a long one... TheCrownless - 15/09/2012 08:28:36 PM 572 Views
Tends to happen around me for SOME reason.... Joel - 17/09/2012 05:31:44 PM 682 Views
Re: I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. kHz1000 - 13/09/2012 11:05:37 AM 531 Views
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