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Curious as to where you read these things TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM
GMOs just upped the ante because the long term effects are almost impossible to know now, and because they prevent farmers replanting seed, sterilize the next generation of neighboring related plants, crowd out the other plants through natural selection, and kill harmless or even beneficial neighboring organisms through biologically produced pest/herbicides.


I have an interest in the field and I haven't come across anything close to substantial evidence that they actually happen outside lab conditions (and in a couple of the scenarios you mentioned not even that). I'd be interested if you could point me in the direction of the journal articles where they show it happens, I'm amazed I haven't come across them myself.
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I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 08:01:41 PM 1151 Views
I think it makes sense in some cases but mostly it makes you feel like you are doing something random thoughts - 11/09/2012 08:25:54 PM 637 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food temeraire - 11/09/2012 08:55:17 PM 681 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food TheCrownless - 11/09/2012 09:20:49 PM 690 Views
i suggest watching henry rollins' film h is for hunger. and then looking up research on gmo crops' temeraire - 12/09/2012 12:57:48 AM 531 Views
I'm familiar with the literature on this matter actually. TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 07:26:09 PM 580 Views
Okay kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:05:39 PM 625 Views
Re: Okay temeraire - 12/09/2012 01:26:20 AM 577 Views
Re: Okay kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 04:25:19 PM 654 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about food Kuke - 11/09/2012 08:59:54 PM 851 Views
I am intrigued by your ideas. Nate - 12/09/2012 03:20:13 PM 554 Views
I'm a biology graduate so I'm a bit bias but... TheCrownless - 11/09/2012 09:41:00 PM 763 Views
Thank you for you perspective! *NM* kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:14:49 PM 299 Views
I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming decades. Tom - 11/09/2012 10:11:33 PM 613 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- kHz1000 - 11/09/2012 10:35:08 PM 665 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- DomA - 12/09/2012 02:38:24 AM 695 Views
Good points kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 09:28:41 AM 699 Views
Re: Good points DomA - 12/09/2012 02:09:49 PM 625 Views
Yes. ironclad - 12/09/2012 10:01:36 AM 602 Views
I like it. Stephen - 11/09/2012 11:29:08 PM 696 Views
What I think Sareitha Sedai - 12/09/2012 03:43:29 PM 554 Views
Re: What I think Stephen - 12/09/2012 04:26:34 PM 641 Views
Did you just INVITE me to ramble? Joel - 11/09/2012 11:30:01 PM 775 Views
Actually (minor pedants point) TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 08:23:48 PM 668 Views
I hold to the view that most food is organic Isaac - 12/09/2012 12:15:27 AM 721 Views
If you are also interested in more views, todays New York Times is discussing it, also. Joel - 12/09/2012 02:45:22 AM 718 Views
What I think (now in the right spot!) Sareitha Sedai - 12/09/2012 04:02:31 PM 720 Views
I'm so glad you responded. nossy - 12/09/2012 04:14:31 PM 697 Views
organic has always been more about the process than the extra nutrition moondog - 12/09/2012 04:02:53 PM 625 Views
Re: organic has always been more about the process than the extra nutrition kHz1000 - 12/09/2012 04:43:02 PM 677 Views
Well... jh - 12/09/2012 08:15:13 PM 733 Views
I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. Tim - 12/09/2012 11:40:40 PM 587 Views
Actually, I believe the "no pesticides" part predates the "no GMOs" part. Joel - 13/09/2012 05:26:53 AM 603 Views
You're right... DomA - 13/09/2012 08:43:52 AM 688 Views
Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. Joel - 14/09/2012 03:35:56 PM 654 Views
Re: Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. DomA - 16/09/2012 07:45:25 PM 667 Views
That is a very interesting overview, thanks. Joel - 17/09/2012 11:22:38 PM 638 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. DomA - 20/09/2012 08:44:45 PM 670 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. Joel - 24/09/2012 03:06:35 AM 676 Views
Curious as to where you read these things TheCrownless - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM 658 Views
Joel is becoming (or has totally become) a crazy conspiracy nut. Tom - 14/09/2012 02:52:38 PM 613 Views
I am aware of no corroborating scientific research, no Joel - 14/09/2012 03:53:42 PM 677 Views
I have some serious problems with that I'm afraid. TheCrownless - 14/09/2012 05:53:39 PM 562 Views
Fair enough; I have some serious fears with GMOs. Joel - 15/09/2012 03:58:13 AM 701 Views
This is a long one... TheCrownless - 15/09/2012 08:28:36 PM 667 Views
Tends to happen around me for SOME reason.... Joel - 17/09/2012 05:31:44 PM 761 Views
Re: I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. kHz1000 - 13/09/2012 11:05:37 AM 600 Views
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