WE have not apologized to anyone; the embassy staff (unsuccessfuly) tried to prevent a riot.
Joel Send a noteboard - 12/09/2012 08:35:16 PM
Again, the US government in the person of Obama has disavowed that apology, so if you want to criticize anyone for the apology your only legitimate target is our Cairo embassy staff (i.e. the people attacked.)
From the admittedly little I have seen on the events, it looks like both we and the Egyptian government dropped the ball on that one, because the protests were openly promoted well in advance of the riot yet most of Egyptian and US security went home before it started. Evidently they did not take it seriously.
What is self-serving is condemning the Left for supporting Mubarak (when they did not actively support the revolution) then condemning them for supporting the revolution (when they said Mubarak should step down, but offered no ACTUAL support.) Anything and everything they do is wrong; I get it. Kucinich did not say anything Congressional Republicans did not repeat when they suggested impeaching Obama on the grounds his Libyan fly-overs were unconstitutional, so that is not really a left/right issue. McKinney is far left, no doubt, but also a total whackjob, which is why the Democratic Party threw her out; neither the left nor even the far left as a whole is any more responsible for her than the far right is for Westboro Baptist, though I was horrified when the Greens nominated her for president in '08.
I have not followed this closely, and it only happened yesterday, but my understanding is the Egyptian government is seeking those responsible to apprehend them and hold them accountable, but has not apologized for the acts of private citizens.
I am a little disgusted the GOP is once again trying to politicize the death of Americans at the hands of Islamic extremists, but frankly amused Romney got nearly all the pertinent facts wrong and every foreign policy wonk in BOTH parties is aghast at how inept at foreign policy it makes him appear. Still more amusing are all the die-hard anti-Obama-at-any-price Republicans still repeating allegations they know are false. If you want to dig your own grave you may do so with my blessing.
Regardless of whether the embassy was trying to "head off attacks", it is not the responsibility of the Federal government to apologize for the non-criminal acts of private citizens. A more appropriate response would be to ensure that security was stepped up, period.
From the admittedly little I have seen on the events, it looks like both we and the Egyptian government dropped the ball on that one, because the protests were openly promoted well in advance of the riot yet most of Egyptian and US security went home before it started. Evidently they did not take it seriously.
Your response is so clearly self-serving (though for once, to the point) that I find it laughable. The Left supports dictators to avoid anti-American mobs? Like Hell it does. The Center of the Democratic party (Hillary, for example) may be loathe to see dictators toppled for security reasons, but the LEFT supports them out of a knee-jerk anti-Americanism, as I pointed out in my earlier post. Kucinich was aiming at the US and at NATO as "criminals", McKinney was supporting an anti-colonialist (read: anti-American) crusade. I didn't ask a question. I asked a rhetorical question for which the answer was clear. The Left supports dictators to score points against the US government, which it sees as the greatest evil on earth, no matter what party is in power.
What is self-serving is condemning the Left for supporting Mubarak (when they did not actively support the revolution) then condemning them for supporting the revolution (when they said Mubarak should step down, but offered no ACTUAL support.) Anything and everything they do is wrong; I get it. Kucinich did not say anything Congressional Republicans did not repeat when they suggested impeaching Obama on the grounds his Libyan fly-overs were unconstitutional, so that is not really a left/right issue. McKinney is far left, no doubt, but also a total whackjob, which is why the Democratic Party threw her out; neither the left nor even the far left as a whole is any more responsible for her than the far right is for Westboro Baptist, though I was horrified when the Greens nominated her for president in '08.
Also, if you will refer to my post, I was asking whether Egypt had apologized for their mob, or taken any actions to find the people responsible for its attack on the embassy.
I have not followed this closely, and it only happened yesterday, but my understanding is the Egyptian government is seeking those responsible to apprehend them and hold them accountable, but has not apologized for the acts of private citizens.
Finally, don't act indignant that this issue has become political, given that you've politicized virtually anything and everything that you can, and this sort of thing is politicized in any campaign year and you know it.
I am a little disgusted the GOP is once again trying to politicize the death of Americans at the hands of Islamic extremists, but frankly amused Romney got nearly all the pertinent facts wrong and every foreign policy wonk in BOTH parties is aghast at how inept at foreign policy it makes him appear. Still more amusing are all the die-hard anti-Obama-at-any-price Republicans still repeating allegations they know are false. If you want to dig your own grave you may do so with my blessing.
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Question: did the Egyptian government apologize for letting a mob attack our embassy on 9/11/12?
- 12/09/2012 03:37:00 PM
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I haven't seen it, but I honestly wasn't looking for that.
- 12/09/2012 04:00:39 PM
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The administration did issue an apology, which was stupid.
- 12/09/2012 04:21:04 PM
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Don't get me started. I'm not in the mood, and I might rip your face off.
- 12/09/2012 04:30:57 PM
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Try it.
- 12/09/2012 05:28:37 PM
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... No, thanks. *NM*
- 12/09/2012 05:39:30 PM
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... No, thanks. *NM*
- 12/09/2012 05:39:30 PM
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Aw...I was hoping to see what "ripping off" my face would look like. 
*NM*
- 12/09/2012 05:56:41 PM
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- 12/09/2012 05:56:41 PM
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Would you care to cite this apology the US administration issued?
- 12/09/2012 08:40:35 PM
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Timeline and statements
- 12/09/2012 09:20:39 PM
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I see: NO ONE EVER apologized to militants; Romney just wants to revive the "apology tour" lie.
- 12/09/2012 10:48:59 PM
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Only very specific people are getting the timeline wrong, because it suits them to do so.
- 12/09/2012 08:37:43 PM
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The apology, did u hear it on Fox news, and was that news report later redacted? Bc it didn't happen *NM*
- 13/09/2012 12:42:44 PM
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We can all differ on what we think constitutes an "apology". In my opinion, it did happen. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 02:10:02 PM
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what is stupid is deliberately distorting the actual statements in order to be outraged at obama
- 13/09/2012 04:01:04 PM
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Besides, the whole point of this post was to question Egypt's position, not Romney OR Obama's *NM*
- 13/09/2012 05:16:02 PM
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No government has apologized to anyone for the attacks, to my knowledge.
- 12/09/2012 05:37:45 PM
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So we're the only ones who apologized to anyone? That's disgusting.
- 12/09/2012 05:55:39 PM
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Re: So we're the only ones who apologized to anyone? That's disgusting.
- 12/09/2012 08:26:07 PM
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Dunno about apologies
- 12/09/2012 08:38:04 PM
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Clarification, please: Egypt arrested four of the perpetrators, or Libya (or both)?
- 12/09/2012 08:45:11 PM
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WE have not apologized to anyone; the embassy staff (unsuccessfuly) tried to prevent a riot.
- 12/09/2012 08:35:16 PM
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Yeah, we Egyptians should be thankful for Obama.
- 12/09/2012 09:59:28 PM
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Never said that, but bashing him for both supporting and NOT supporting Mubarak is asinine.
- 12/09/2012 11:43:08 PM
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No, but "our country is stronger, safer and more respected in the world" *NM*
- 12/09/2012 10:04:03 PM
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does anyone know where Romney actually stands on this?
- 12/09/2012 11:26:47 PM
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NO ONE is as confused as Romney. 
- 12/09/2012 11:48:23 PM
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I don't know if he's confused...
- 13/09/2012 12:09:16 PM
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- 12/09/2012 11:48:23 PM
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I don't know if he's confused...
- 13/09/2012 12:09:16 PM
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Romney never "had" the foreign press to lose...
- 13/09/2012 02:08:59 PM
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Sadly for Romney the American press is almost as biased against him as over there. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 09:53:25 PM
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The campaign is still running - it's not as if anybody expected anything intelligent from him.
- 13/09/2012 09:19:12 PM
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If we were scared of unprepared leaders we never would have picked Obama
- 13/09/2012 09:51:45 PM
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Re: If we were scared of unprepared leaders we never would have picked Obama
- 14/09/2012 01:25:13 AM
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People keep talking about Obama as a change from the Bush era but what di he really change?
- 14/09/2012 10:54:18 AM
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Re: People keep talking about Obama as a change from the Bush era but what di he really change?
- 15/09/2012 01:55:42 AM
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Yeah, but Romney isn't running against 2008 Obama. He's running against a 4-year president.
- 14/09/2012 02:35:22 AM
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But Romney is very experienced and Obama wasn't
- 14/09/2012 11:14:08 AM
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obama can speak without putting his foot in his mouth, romney can't
- 14/09/2012 04:01:38 PM
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to bad he can't do it in all 57 states without offending people who live god and guns
- 14/09/2012 04:11:50 PM
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you're living in the past
- 14/09/2012 05:46:26 PM
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The popular vote will win the election or Obama will be lamest lame duck in history
- 14/09/2012 06:25:21 PM
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except "you didn't build that" is in reference to the US infrastructure not actual business
- 14/09/2012 09:31:29 PM
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Well, at this point it is hard to say he is not at least factually challenged.
- 14/09/2012 04:40:13 PM
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Re: Well, at this point it is hard to say he is not at least factually challenged.
- 15/09/2012 03:47:07 PM
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He appears to be buckling down on the lie that the embassy apologized to the protesters. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 03:04:57 AM
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I love how the media are tying all this to a movie that no one watched.
- 14/09/2012 03:22:38 PM
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