The Colts have never had a good D: They rode Manning and his line for a decade.
Joel Send a noteboard - 10/09/2012 10:44:51 PM
Unless you ride a defense to a Super Bowl, then you are clutch for life. My problem with Schaub is that he can't stay healthy.
PEYTON Manning certainly never rode a D to a Super Bowl; I think his line made him look better than he actually was, but after last night I am beginning to reassess that, because our line definitely did not make him shine. I do not care much for Drew Brees as a person but, again, he certainly did not ride a D to a championship. Rodgers did not either. There are clutch QBs out there; unfortunately, none of them are starting for either TX team. No one is sadder about that than I.
I remember that season vividly. I had always lamented that Peyton never had a complete team around him to win it all. During that Super Bowl season, his defense looked absolutely atricious. Then, just before the playoffs started, Bob Sanders came back from injury and, out of nowhere, the Colts began playing lights out football. Here is Peyton's stats for the playoff games:
23-8 win over KC: 268 yds, 1 td 3 int
KC should not even have been in the playoffs that year; they lost to all the other bubble teams. Denver BEAT all the bubble teams, but we split the head-to-head and KC finished with a better Divison record, so the only way we could make the playoffs was if KC was the #5 seed, which was impossible since all the bubble teams beat them. The Chiefs only made the playoffs in the flukiest possible way, with an offense grossly inferior to what they had with Vermeil (whom they fired for missing the playoffs the previous year; ironically they had one more win that year.) They had a pretty good line anchored by Wiegmann at center, but their skill players consisted of Larry Johnson, Tony Gonzales and nothing else. Small wonder the Colts defense was up to handling them whatever Manning did or did not.
15-6 win over Bal: 170 yds, 0 td 2 int
The Ravens would not know an offense if it came up and bit them on the butt, yet, like the '06 Chiefs, they had a solid D that would give Manning or anyone trouble.
38-34 win over NE: 349, 1 td, 1 int
Coming back from 21-3 is the mark of a good offense, particularly against a very good Pats D. They had been a monkey on Mannings back throughout his career, but he finally removed them that year.
29-17 win over Chi: 247 yds, 1 td, 1 int
I felt so bad for the Bears D after their Hall of Fame performance in that game, because they left it all out on the field and their offense just refused to win.
The defense really bailed them out on the KC and Bal games, as you can tell just by the score. I mean, they played lights out. I remember those games. The defense let them down against NE, but hey, come on, it's Tom Brady and the Pats. The Colts had to come back from 21-3 at halftime to win. And then Peyton had a very medicore game in the Super Bowl and was given the MVP by default. It was rainy that day, so I give him some leeway.
But about your points for Brees and Rodgers, I agree. They put up points to guide their teams. I was mainly referring to Eli Manning and the dumb luck he has had.
But about your points for Brees and Rodgers, I agree. They put up points to guide their teams. I was mainly referring to Eli Manning and the dumb luck he has had.
I covered the Colts playoff performance by game, so I will just refer to that. As far as Eli, it is hard to attribute an 8-3 playoff record and two SBs to luck alone.
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Re: Yeah, he was a machine, and the line protected him far better than I expected.
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